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JSerra suspends JV football for 2011

September 7th, 2011, 4:15 pm · · posted by

JSerra will not field a junior varsity football team this season, JSerra coach Jim Hartigan said Wednesday.

Hartigan said the number of football-playing sophomores and juniors is not high, and many of the players in those classes are on varsity.

Hartigan said he does not want to see too many players have to go both ways in a JV game and does not want to have players participating in a full JV game one day and then a varsity game the next.

The school still has two freshman football teams. This decision to curtail JV football is a burden on other Trinity League teams that rely on those games to develop players. JV games offer playing time to underclassmen who would experience little or no game action in varsity games.

Other Trinity League schools were informed today of JSerra’s decision.

JSerra is the Trinity League’s smallest coed school, at about 1,050 students. That is around 50 percent of coed Mater Dei’s enrollment.

In 2006, JSerra forfeited its Trinity League games because it did not have enough depth to compete in the rugged league.  That was JSerra’s first season in a league with Orange County’s other larger private schools. Two years earlier, JSerra was 0-4 when it shut down its football program because injuries had depleted the rosters.

JSerra was 5-5 overall last year, and 0-5 in the Trinity League.

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  • Eagledad says:

    I do not find this surprising as Jserra had numerous players transfer out after their freshman year. Last I heard, they only had 16 out of 34 freshman from last year’s team still playing. Numerous freshman players transferred out to such programs as SM, San Clemente and Mission Viejo.

  • jserrafan says:

    We need a dynamic coach that can help us beat the likes of Mater Dei. If we were able to pull off such a feat enrollement would double and there would be excitement around the program. We would be able to get high profile transfers and take our place among the best. We need to search high and low for someone who can lead our program to greatness.

    • Jimbob says:

      You have that guy. He built Santa Margarita’s program from scratch with 22 players. The biggest problem with JSerra is that they got stuck in the Trinity League too early. Both Olu and SM had years to buiild up to the Trinity League, JSerra doesn’t have that luxury.

      If they were in any other league they would be a contender.

      You have to recognize what Hartigan has accomplished in his time there. They are a very competitive program in the toughest league in the country.

      • Greg Hall says:

        I totally agree with this statement and would know as I have a son playing there in his 4th year. This team is extremely well coached. They still do not have the depth that they need with a number of kids going both ways and injuries playing a higher weighted factor than at other Trinity schools. However, this varsity team is 16-0 against non-league opponents the last three years, has two players being recruited for division one and several others that could play college ball as well. Their current freshman class is 70 strong, much larger than past classes. They crushed their first opponent, have a solid talented QB and appear to be ready to compete and win in the Trinity league. This bodes well for the program, and could be a turning point.

        If I was an 8th grade Dad with a kid looking at playing Trinity league football, I would seriously consider JSerra. There is elbow room to start playing right away, the coaching staff is as good as it gets, the facilities are the best, class sizes are the smallest and the education in the Trinity league is the best. Don’t get me wrong though, it is not easy. I have a hard time believing that any other Trinity league team is conditioned or trained as hard as at JSerra. They are truly getting the most they can out of these young men, through necessity and philosophy. However, as a Father, I really appreciate the character they are developing in my son in terms of dedication and integrity. These attributes make a good man. Know this, Hartigan does not play favrorites. If your son is a star, but but not working hard, missing practice, not getting grades, etc. he will sit him, regardless of the pain the team will suffer from his not playing.

        If you want, go ahead and go to Mater Dei, Santa Margarita or Servite where they have well over 100 kids on their freshman teams. Unless your kid honestly has the very top level talent, he will be riding the pine instead of playing and developing at JSerra.

        • Mayhem says:

          Dream on Greg…..JSerra is not close to the fitness levels at Servite and if you are afraid that your son will be, ” riding the pine,” why send him to a Trinity league school in the first place? Believe it or not, there are kids out there that look forward to the idea of competition and the challenge of starting on a Trinity league team. It sounds like you are in favor of sending your kid to JSerra if they think that they can’t play anywhere else in the league.

        • Jimbob says:

          ..or they want to start a tradition. Some kids just want to play for big, established programs and others want to start something themselves.

          I’m sure the kids who started at Santa Margarita had a great experience building a program and starting a tradition.

          …and Servites fitness level is way overrated, everyone saw them get run off the field by a smaller, better DLS team.

        • The Guild says:

          @ Jimbob. The idea that Servite’s fitness level is overrated, based on their loss to DLS is not your usual astute observation. Please take the time to ask any player or coach that has played against them the past few years about their conditioning. If you think that the battle in the trenches is consistently won by the lesser of conditioned teams or the relentless aggressive tackling and total team pursuit, you aren’t watching any Servite game. The DLS game had some intangible aspects that don’t start to describe the genuine reasons for the total domination by DLS….no excuses though, it’s another season, let’s hope JSerra gets a win or two, as a former player of mine has a son that is enjoying the heck out of his experience playing fb for the varsity now.

        • Mayhem says:

          So using your logic, it was better for Jserra to finish last in the trinity, miss the playoffs and watch the state championship game than it was for servite to play and get beat by a DLS team that was better? That had nothing to do with fitness…DLS was just the better team and out executed Servite all night.

        • Jimbob says:

          Not “better”, the same.

          For Trinity teams, State is the goal. Neither team won it.

          Doesn’t matter who finished where. It’s about the experience and I’m pretty sure the Seniors of Servite didn’t love that finish. But, hey, at least they danced.

        • Mayhem says:

          So now you are going to diminish the Trinity League championship and the CIF PAC5 title that Servite won…brilliant

        • Jimbob says:

          Not diminishing. Good for them.

          But from a Jserra perspective, who cares?

          It’s great that they did well but Servite took a long time to get where they are. Mater Dei killed them for years before they got it together. I’m sure Servite fans weren’t concerned that MD had PAC5 championships and national ranking, they were just building their program to the next level.

          For a Servite or MD fan to bash JSerra is just stupid. Don’t be a bully, let them build their program like other teams did.

        • invictus says:

          Greg,

          I hope the JSerra students and parents and friends are patient. They got thrown too soon into one of the best leagues in the country. But remember, they are competing well in other sports already.

          Football just takes more resources and more time to develop. Unfortunately it is the marquis sport in HS sports.

          The facilities are top-notch, the school is beautiful and the academics are excellent with small class sizes. If I had the funds I would consider sending my kid there.

          You can’t do better than Hartigan, he’s a proven commodity at the highest level. I know Servite had him on their list when they were looking for a coach.

          JSerra is competing well against teams at their level, and there is no shame in that. Just give Hartigan time and it will all come together. You will always have to compete with SM and the good public programs around you for students. That’s just part of the game.

          I predict that in abut 5 years, if you don’t dismantle what you’ve already built by getting rid of Hartigan, you will be winning Trinity games and even going to playoffs, so give it time.

          If your team is as fit as Servite, then that’s saying a lot and you are on the right track. And you will see it pay off as the season goes on.

          I wish JSerra much success and I think they’ve done pretty damned good so far. I’m a Servite guy and I’ve seen the games vs. JSerra and they have nothing to hang their heads about! Baby steps, you’ll get there if you don’t give up! Credo

        • Mayhem says:

          My point in all of this is not to pick on Jserra but rather to call them out for the bush league move of cancelling the JV season after the season began pure and simple.

        • Jimbob says:

          Guild, I apologize. You are right. The DLS game was not a fair representation. Sometimes teams just don’t match up well.

          My point is the constant refences to Servite’s superior conditioning. I seriously doubt that Servite’s conditioning is any better than other Trinity League teams. To imply that would be an insult to the rest of the league. I’m certain that Welch/Rollinson/Hartigan’s teams aren’t slacking knowing that they have to play Servite every year.

          Servite has had a nice run of talented players, just like MD did a few years ago. You can’t tell me that Mater Dei was more physically fit for ten years. They simply had better talent.

        • The Guild says:

          Jimbob, the deparity between MD and Servite over most of the 10 to 15 yrs prior to Thomas was not in talent. It was in coaching and devotion to the Head Coach of each program.
          As relates to the strength & conditioning….no other Trinity program has the demands and year around commitment that Servite does, as Thomas is alongside lifting and motivating, as he reads motivational scripture. Intense? You bet! You can doubt all the way to the Open Div game this year. The Friars are in constant striving towards being the best TEAM that they can be in all respects.

        • Jimbob says:

          “the deparity between MD and Servite over most of the 10 to 15 yrs prior to Thomas was not in talent.”

          Sorry, it was talent. Those MD teams were stacked.

          “no other Trinity program has the demands and year around commitment that Servite does”

          Impossible to prove, but I doubt it. Servite will lose to a more talented team this year and their conditioning will have nothing to do with it. They will get beat by a better team.

    • footballmonger says:

      What a sad pathetic post above, to quote “We would be able to get high profile transfers and take our place among the best”. That is exactly why high school football has become ridiculous, when you have to rely on transfers. It’s one thing to talk to the students before 9th grade but to rely on recruiting, errr, I mean transfers.

  • jserradad says:

    What a sad state of affairs, we deserve soo much better.

    • Mayhem says:

      The Trinity League deserves soo much better…You mean to tell me that J Serra didn’t realize until this week that they couldn’t field a JV team? Did they just start practicing last week? The league does indeed depend upon JV games to get underclassmen ready for life at the Varsity level and losing a game from your schedule after the season has begun is ridiculous. Is this how AD Dave Lawn is going to run this program? If
      J Serra can’t field a team to play at all levels, they ought to go find a new league where they can compete.

      • Greg Hall says:

        Hold onto your horses. The Freshman team is the largest they have ever fielded and appears to be good enough to truly compete in the Trinity league this year. Depth has been a problem at higher levels resulting in the decision of the program to pull their JV from Trinity competition and focus their limited bodies on Varsity. I think JSerra is at a positive turning point and will be quite competitive at the Varsity level within a few years. They have an excellent Freshman QB whom my Senior QB son says is good enough to have an opportunity to play D1. He would know. He is surrounded by numerous talented kids and size.

        I am confident that after reviewing this year’s Freshman record at the end of the season, you will come to the conclusion that they belong in the Trinity league with everyone else.

        Our coach, Jim Hartigan built Santa Margarita’s program to the point where they can compete in the Trinity league. He is doing just fine positioning JSerra the same way. There is a reason JSerra just extended his contract for an additional 5 years and that he is one of the highest paid coaches in the country.

        Although it is tough for us competing in the Trinity league currently, my son, who is a D1 prospect, got an extra year of playing time starting as a Junior that he would not have had at Mater Dei (where he also shadowed). Over the last three years they have won all their non-league games. They are poised for the next step in the development of the program and will not be looking back.

        If you want to develop a solid young man and have a true opportunity to PLAY Trinity League football, check out JSerra in depth – over all facets, not just on the surface

        • Eagledad says:

          With all due respect Mr. Hall, How is your son qualified to tell if someone is D 1 or not?

          I am hoping that this is just a fake name and not the QB’s dad cause if it is, the stories I have heard about the Dad must be true…

  • Truth says:

    the key for jserra is to hire a coach who can win at the trinity league level and can attract some top players. we can’t just sit and wait for good players to come through the door. look at olu, they have been attracting top players from all over. they even provide transportation and full scholarships. md is like usc, they get the best players transfer in from other states. i would like to see us beat md and get a couple of tv games each season. the mind set has to change before we get kicked out of the trinity league. we need to identify a potential group of coaches who fit the criteria and reach out to gage their interest. a competitive, winning football program will heighten the spirit and interest in jserra. dropping the jv program is not only embarrasing but an indication negligence, incompetence and decline.

    • Jimbob says:

      If you want to cut corners, bend rules, and steal other programs kids to try and compete, Bob Johnson is your man. Good luck.

    • Greg Hall says:

      You are out of line. Read my comments above and get behind your program. Our kids and coaching staff deserve our parental faith and support. The necessity of canceling JV Trinity league games is a blip in the program more than countered by the record extremely strong Freshman class of players that they just secured. I predict a solid Trinity league record from that team this year and that you will eat your words.

      • Mayhem says:

        A “blip” that has been repeated three times cannot be considered a “blip”… That is called a pattern

  • whiffer says:

    J Serra will have trouble getting athletic kids as long as the coaching staff runs around with Trinity-sized chips on their shoulders. Let’s all pray for re-leaguing to happen soon so we can get them put in a division that is far more appropriate for the type of school they are.

    • Greg Hall says:

      I completely disagree. See my above comments. If you want to be the best your hire the best coaching staff (which we already did) and you play the best. That combines with the elbow room to actually PLAY at JSerra will take care of the program just fine over time. I do not think that that period of time will be that much longer.

      • Mayhem says:

        How many league wins, league championships, or CIF titles has that desire to play the best, coaching staff or “elbow room” led to? If your kid has the ability to play at the Trinity league level, why are you concerned with,” elbow room to actually PLAY.”

  • LEADERSHIP VOID says:

    J Serra being in the Trinity League is great if we knew how to take advantage of it. It seems like everyone here at J Serra is resigned to being a sad sack and cant wait for re-leaguing so we can go about our abysmal defeated ways. Where is the LEADERSHIP! Who will stand up and sail our ship on the right course?

    • Mayhem says:

      Leadership??? You guys just hired Dave Lawn, a guy with no experience as an athletic director and a record of 46-60-2 as the head baseball coach at Servite. He is now your Athletic Director and associate head coach of the baseball team. Some blogs credit him with single-handedly destroying the USC baseball program in his seven seasons (2001-07) as USC’s pitching coach and recruiting coordinator. The Friars baseball team never won a league championship nor made the playoffs during his stay in Anahiem at an all boys school that is loaded with athletes. With this guy leading your athletic department, you should be travelling to Acton to play 8 man football in no time. Interesting hire for a program that needs leadership and someone to sail your ship on the right course.

      • Greg Hall says:

        You named yourself Mayhem correctly. I am not sure why you are so threatened by JSerra that you would post such a disparaging remark. None-the-less, he inherits an athletic program in most sports that is quite competitive in the Trinity League. The baseball team is a great example. They were league champs two years ago, are in the running this year and have top level pro prospects already coming out of the program. Last I checked, our AD was not the baseball coach, or any other coach at JSerra. Clearly JSerra is already sailing on the right course.

        • Mayhem says:

          Then you might want to go check again with your AD again or go to this OC Varsity link…http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2011/06/08/dave-lawn-new-ad-at-jserra/178129/

          The article by Steve Fryer states,” Dave Lawn, Servite baseball coach the past four seasons, is the new athletic director at JSerra, JSerra president Frank Talarico announced this morning.

          Lawn, 47, has not been an athletic director. He was an assistant baseball coach at USC before taking the Servite job. Lawn said he will be associate head coach of the baseball team at JSerra, where Brett Kay is the coach; Kay was the Register’s baseball coach of the year in 2009.”

          Not my Disparaging remarks , OC varsity’s reporter wrots them. Lawn’s record as a head baseball coach are a matter of record and you can search Dave Lawn to find the blogs I refrenced regarding his time at USC.

          Sailing on the right course???Cancelling your JV team after the season has started is sailing on the right course???The other schools that you schedule expect you to field a team when they schedule games with you. You just eliminated ten percent of everyones games with you and this is not the first time. You guys should be thrown out of the Trinity league for cancelling seasons three times.

  • Brett says:

    JSerra is not going to be moved out of the Trinity league unless they go to a different area (they are in the Orange County area now, but could apply to be freelance or the Small Schools area). There is no public school league that is going to take them, and no way that public school principals who make up the bulk of the 72 voters are going to place them in any public league.

    They might be able to swing something where they play all sports but football in the Trinity and go elsewhere for football, but it wouldn’t be in a public league.

  • Yes We Can! says:

    Ten of the 11 schools in the Trinity and Serra Leagues are ranked in The Times’ top 25. The only school missing is JSerra. Santa Margarita was 3-7 before Harry Welsh turned them around. It can be done!

  • Mr Elite 11 says:

    If you want to cut corners, bend rules, and steal other programs kids to try and compete, Bob Johnson is your man. Good luck

    I was thinking Bob Johnson, but I don’t think he would take a starter job at this point.

  • Mr Elite 11 says:

    Name 5 coaches in the top 100, who has beaten a Trinity League Team that might be interested in JSerra.
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.

    • Glen Chervin says:

      There is really only one man that could get the job done in my opinion. Frank Mazzotta.

      • Jimbob says:

        He doesn’t qualify for that list (no Trinity wins.) It’s great that he’s done well at La Habra but competing in the Trinity league is a whole different ballgame.

    • Greg Hall says:

      There would be a number of them. That is why we got a top level coach like Jim Hartigan and why he renewed his contract.

      • Mayhem says:

        Earth to greg … He renewed his contract in order to get PAID … No one expects JSerra to win in the Trinity league so why not sign up for five more years and get paid for the mediocrity that is expected and embraced.

        • Jimbob says:

          Damn, why the venom?

          JSerra should be applauded for trying to compete in a tough league.

          La Habra get huge props for scheduling Trinity teams, JSerra get crap for being in the league. Weird.

  • Mr Elite 11 says:

    Excellent choice, however he doesnt fit the criteria of beating a Trinity League Team yet. He lost to Servite 23-0, OLU 21-17, St John Bosco 35-17. He will get his chance at redemptiopn in the next three weeks against each one of these team respectively. So right now we have only come up with one coach so far, Bob Johnson. Who are the other four coaches?

  • Mr Elite 11 says:

    1. Bob Johnson, Mission Viejo
    2. Elijah Asante, Carson
    3. Matt Logan, Corona Cent
    4. Brian Barnes, Tesoro
    5. Mac Neal, Lakewood

    • Jimbob says:

      Are any of these coaches better than Hartigan?

      Johnson is good, but he gets lots of “help.”

      • Eagledad says:

        And are you saying that Jserra is out searching for “Help” as well?

        • The Guild says:

          The greatest contributor to a winning hsfb program is winning. Without “help”, all of the top rated hsfb programs would be akin to JSerra, without exception.
          That being said, “help” comes in several forms, such as word of mouth from alums, boosters and community. Parents will send their children, with some reasonable concerns, if there is perceived benefit, which is a whole other issue. “help” comesw in the way of great assistant coaches. “help” comes in the relationship of the AD with the folks that can “help” and the understanding of the actions of all involved.
          JSerra paid Hartigan a good sum to come back to OC from Clovis West and I’m not convinced that the other “help” has received proper attention and priority. Just my opinion.

    • Brett says:

      Which of them even remotely has an interest in JSerra? I doubt any of them do.

  • holy triune says:

    i like hartigan but suspending jv football, no high profile transfers and no wins in trinity. nothing to be excited about and going in the wrong direction. we need a dynamic visionary.

    • Greg Hall says:

      Wow… You are forgetting that they have had Trinity league football victories. You might want to read my comments above before you give up on the program and shoot your mouth off. Your view is not true or helpful. Hopefully you reassess your commitment, especially around your son. He deserves better.

  • jserrafan says:

    What a sad pathetic post above, to quote “We would be able to get high profile transfers and take our place among the best”. That is exactly why high school football has become ridiculous, when you have to rely on transfers. It’s one thing to talk to the students before 9th grade but to rely on recruiting, errr, I mean transfers.

    don’t be naive footballmonger, the top programs like mater dei attract the top players who transfer to their school because they are a name brand attractive school, ranked in the top 25 and always on tv, papers and internet. if we are not aggressive we will just continue to be a very lame program.

  • Mr Elite !! says:

    1. Bob Johnson, Mission Viejo-Playoff wins vs Santa Margarita & MD
    2. Elijah Asante, Carson-Beat Mater Dei 3 years in a row
    3. Matt Logan, Corona Cent-Beat Mater Dei
    4. Brian Barnes, Tesoro- Beat Santa Margarita
    5. Mac Neal, Lakewood-Beat St John Bosco

    JSerra has 1-23 record since they have been in the Trinity. The only win was against Santa Margarita.

    • Greg Hall says:

      They are 16-0 in non league victories the last three years. Many of these wins were significant. Read my comments above about the stud freshman class that we just secured. I predict a turn around within a couple of years.

      • Mayhem says:

        How many playoff games have you been to? Zero… How many times have you cancelled all or part of a season? Three in the last seven. How many league games have you won? One. That turn around is coming within three years? Yeah right….You are delusional.

        • Jimbob says:

          JSerra doesn’t need a “turn around” they are heading in the right direction. They are a top 15 team in OC. They could beat most teams in Orange County, they just happen to play in a ridiculously tough league. If a traditional power like Los Al or Edison would play in the Trinity would they fare any better than JSerra? Probably not, and they have a 50 year head start.

          So ease up. Santa Margarita wasn’t built in a day.

    • Jimbob says:

      What is the rest of OC’s record against the Trinity League over the last few years? Probably not much better.

  • JSerra Rising says:

    Lawn said he will focus on boosting the football team and using athletics as a way to boost enrollment for the whole school.

    “Having a fine athletics program with good coaches and lots of opportunities for kids to participate goes hand in hand with the enrollment (goals) of a private Catholic school,” Lawn said.

    In order to double enrollment you need a coach who has demonstrated that he can win and be competitive in the Trinity League. What attracts the top athletes are playoff and championship games that are played on television. You have to increase the number of athletes that participate in your program. Suspending the JV football program is anti-thetical to the enrollment goals of the school.

  • Greg Hall says:

    However, securing a large, stud freshman football class, loaded with talent is. Looks like the tide is turning!

    • Mayhem says:

      If the freshman class is so “stud”, why don’t you cancel the second freshman team, move some of them up and bring some of your sophs back down to play a JV schedule? Humph… I think Hartigan is worried that if he doesn’t win at least one varsity game, the JSerra faithful will realize that 1-15 in the Trinity is not exactly good enough. If you are satisfied watching the PAC 5 playoffs every year then so be it… If you want to come to grips with reality then go down to a level where you can compete and field teams at all of the levels that are EXPECTED in any league… You are the laughing stock of the Trinity league and you don’t even realize it!

      • Jimbob says:

        So your solution is to have freshman/sophs play JV Trinity teams? That will kill morale and get kids to transfer to schools like SC or MV.

        Unfortunately the Trinity does not allow for growing pains. JSerra has to do whatever they can to field a competitive varisty team. No one cares if JV goes undefeated. The varsity has to compete to get kids to want to come to their school. Their record against the rest of the Trinity is no worse than the rest of Orange County. Give them some time.

        JSerra also has the disadvantage of having SM, MV, SC and Tesoro in their back yard. Mater Dei and Servite don’t have those problems.

        • Mayhem says:

          My solution would be to build from the ground up in a league that I could be competetive in…not the toughest in the section, state and arguably the country…trying to fill the gaps on varsity by pulling jv players up and cancelling the jv season is like trying to build a house, roof first.

          So you think that you are not killing morale by cancelling the JV team, moving them to Varsity only to watch games from the sidelines or get your teeth kicked in by the rest of the Trinity?The people that care about JV games are the players that work their tails off to get ready to compete at the varsity level. To cancel the JV season after it has begun denies these kids an opportunity to play in a game that will help them get better.

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  • heythere says:

    “they have had trinity league victories” haha they won one game against the worst team in sm history. I respect the fact that you support your team but I think you should cool it with the “16-0″ in non-league. Thats because they play NO ONE. How about “1-15″ in league. Thats terrible for the other jv players who get a game removed from their schedule. Jserra should have figured that out months ago and at least given the other schools a chance to fill their schedules. Figure it out jserra.

  • heythere says:

    the tide is definately not turniing I’ll tell you that much

  • ge_krueger says:

    There isn’t a Trinity League team that has not had “lean” years or developing years. I think Hartigan is the right guy for where the program is now and where it can go. Any of you remember the Angelus League and St Paul ran over everyone? Montgomery, Amat, Mater Dei, St Paul, Servite …
    I can remember also a change during that period of time where a school was replaced in the league since it was not able to break into being competitive but it’s pre-season results were not 5-0.
    That being said don’t look to replace a coach, look to see how you can support a program rather than poo-poo the success thus far. When JSerra moves to being a 6-4 or a 7-3 program look out. Better yet look at what Harry Welch has done and is doing. It wasn’t so long ago that the Eagles were in the nest so to speak…
    See you guys Friday night in the stands and I’ll be checking in to read your thoughts post game. 387 miles to go on the 10 west bound …

    Credo

    • Brett says:

      Welch is doing at SM what everyone knew would happen there. They had a really bad team a couple years back, but they had the kids in the younger classes that indicated that if they could keep those kids there and develop them , they would be good right now. Don’t you think there was a reason that Bob Johnson would look to leave a Mission program he has developed and take over at SM?

      JSerra on the other hand has recruited talented freshmen ever since they opened. They have looked to mine the local talent in the youth football systems, but can’t seem to keep many of those kids on campus past that first year.

  • ge_krueger says:

    Brett ~ It will improve. I just read that Servite freshman beat LH 49-0. I am proud of Trinity League as a whole. I am very proud of the fact JSerra has gone into league 5-0 the last couple of years. I haven’t looked it up, but it would be curious to know the stat of Trinity League wins v loses record during preseason. Somebody is going to chime in about the 5-0 … No they are not playing against MV, Edison, Poly, … but they are not playing Bolsa Grande either.

    Hartigan is right guy …

  • Curious George says:

    Maybe Hartigan is the right guy; so maybe its the school that is the problem. Maybe students don’t stay because they are offered scholarships in an effort to attract athletes and in turn boost enrollment. However, since the school doesn’t operate for free, scholarships are taken away and away goes the student. Why would one choose to send their child to JS which charges far more money, is a relatively new school as compared to SM which has a 25 year history, is very reputable and recognized nationally and internationally… and costs much less to attend?So, you’re right, Hartigan is likely the right guy, but maybe he is not the problem.

  • ge_krueger says:

    Hadn’t even started to consider the tuition Can O’ Worms and that difference. I guess we could look at the socio-economic breakdown of South County families and the choices faced by these families on where to educate and advance their children via parochial or public schools that include sports programs.

  • getter done says:

    playing sorry teams like wilson hs in the city section will give you an undefeated preseason record and have you totally unprepared for trinity league play. why dont you play carson or crenshaw or any other tough school to get yourself ready? i take my hat off to mater dei because they get it. the problem w jserra is they just dont get it. they dont have the right coach or the right program. they will not win a trinity game this season or the next. they killed that possibility with the suspension of the jv football team. hartigan cant get it done. lets get someone who can.

  • Curious George says:

    Santa Margarita wasn’t built in a day; they have been building for 25 years by highly qualified experts in the classroom and field. There is no pretense that institutions of higher learning do not take substantial money and time to develop. Quality is earned, not bought.

  • No, You Dont Get It! says:

    No, You Dont Get It! I am a head coach and with every program their are a myriad of problems that must be dealt with. It takes a whole community, administrative and team effort to get the job done. Hartigan is a great coach and the right man for the job. He needs complete “Buy In” from his team, administration and community. These message boards are a tremendous resource for people with an axe to grind. You people who are calling for this honorable mans job should show some empathy and think how you would feel if people were allowed to express their random negative views about you and your job performance.

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