Football: Clark Livingston transfers to La Habra
August 23rd, 2011, 9:06 pm · · posted by Damian Calhoun
UPDATE 8/30/11: Livingston ruled ineligible
Clark Livingston, who was slated to be the starting quarterback for the Orange Lutheran Lancers this season, has transferred to La Habra, coach Frank Mazzotta confirmed by phone.
Mazzotta said that Livingston enrolled in school La Habra, participated in football practice Tuesday and had all of his “clearance papers.”
School begins at La Habra, Aug. 29
“I didn’t know about it until my AD introduced him,” Mazzotta said.
The Highlanders quarterback situation was down to a competition between senior Cole Wolterman and junior Sean Sparling.
Livingston is a senior. He completed 104 of 143 passes for 1,055 yards, four touchdowns and five interceptions last season for the Lancers. He also rushed for 197 yards.
“This added another guy into the mix,” Mazzotta said. “I’m not going to treat a kid poorly because he moves. People move for weird things and he deserves a chance to compete.”
The Highlanders open the 2011 season, Sept. 2 against El Dorado.
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Hah, can’t believe Mazzotta actually believes the words he is spewing out.
Nice going kid, stiffing your teamates after all these years. College recruiters see that side too.
La Habra doesn’t start classes until Monday, August 29th. Lies Lies Lies
Outsider, you’re a clueless as to what happened. Future OLU parents see what happened too.
It’s great to be a HIGHLANDER isn’t it? Most people want to play for a winner, that’s why they keep coming…
Enjoy those three beatdowns in non league to go along with your billionth consecutive CIF championship.
You know what…..they sure will enjoy em buddy!
I’m wondering if his fear of missing the playoffs and having that pressure persuaded him out? what was his reason?
Let’s see, hmmmm. 4 consecutive CIF Championships! Still no QB named as Starter? I think La Habra has found a starter. That game vs OLU just got interesting. Telivise that one!
La Habra is not playing OLU this year
oops my bad . havent had my coffee yet
Fear of missing the playoffs??????
LOL
Yeah your playing against servite, SM, Mater Dei, and a much improved st. John Bosco. One mistake and your in 5th place. They missed out last year.
“I didn’t know about it until my AD introduced him,” Mazzotta said. OH PLEASE!
No he was suspended for the 1st game. Moved to scout team QB and not too add the mixed between him and the head coach.
people need to stop all this non sense our boy had his reason and let them be his.
uhmm you haters should lay off you have no idea what has been going on with so calm down
That game against OLU just got very very interesting!!!
It’s a geat day to be a HIGHLANDER….most players want to come and play for a winning program and coaching staff. That’s why they keep coming!!!! The Drive for Five is a Alive
That last sentence was cute..
If CIF does nothing about this; they might as well disband. For the LH coach to say what he did is an insult to everyone’s intelligence. La Habra should change their name to Mission Viejo West.
Agreed, this has now reached the pointed of pathetic. Last year Griffin and Peko, this year Livingston.
Has anybody ever taken into consideration the cost of tuition at the Trinity League Schools? Maybe some of these kids parents need a break in hard times especially if your paying high tuition because your kid is an athlete and you want to give him the best opportunity, yet the program is marginal (Orange Lutheran in the Trinity League) or even bad (Such was the case with Griffin at St. Paul).
Why pay big bucks that maybe you don’t just have laying around when you can do better at a public school? By the way, Peko was a relative of Kyle Peko La Habra’s staring Tackle. Is it wrong for a relative to join the household if it means a better life?
Finally, if somebody moves that’s sometimes a hardship? Moving from South Orange County to North Orange County is not a promotion. Moving is not fun and all families are uprooted and make sacrifices. Clark Livingston has to start all over his senior year of high School and goes into a program La Habra at the very last second . These are not ideal circumstances nor does it sound planned? So, hold your judgments and get the whole story before you find someone guilty. Put yourself in their shoes and look at the whole picture?
Hmmm… Starting, good school, great team, tight-end is big time, playing in “the best league”. Something is definitely not right with OLU Football. Maybe this is a way out. Coach is right…. Very weird. Only thing that makes sense is choosing LHHS.
This goes to explain that La Habra doesn’t recruit like the private schools. Instead, the athletes recruit La Habra. The private school’s should be forced to show a list of the athletes each year that are given a free or reduced education. That is called recruiting. La Habra must be doing a hell of a great job for great athletes to want to attend their program, or why are they flocking. Oh, maybe it’s called a free & reduced lunch???
Paul has it exactly right. What is Mazzota offering thes “recruits” free lunch? It’s a public school tuition is already free and they have NO PERKS to offer. They come to La Habra because it has a good program and doen’t cost 15K a year.
Hey Paul,
EVERY kid in Public school is on “scholarship”. AKA “Free education”. Please don’t make statements like “La Habra doesn’t recruit like the private schools. Give me a break
that was great…funny too…i cant stop laughing…but your right la habra most be doing something right……we’ll see come 2011=2012 season
What’s everybodys problem? You seem like you guys are all hatin because he didn’t go to the school you guys go for, grow up and get over yourselves!!
If he was going to start at OLu and he moved for list of possible personal reasons then shows up at La Habra. Again he was not going to a “better” school in LH. ( even though playing for LH will get him most likely playing for a League Champion and maybe a CIF Champion, he will not get any more or better exposure at LH then he would have for a Trinity league team.)
Sometimes there are other factors that we dont see or hear about. Give the kid the benefit of doubt.
I promise you the tuition wasn’t the reason he left…
Clarks ex-teammate, why so bitter, this is not what you are taught at OLU! If anyone should be ashamed for being so judgmental should be you. You are dying to tell everyone the gossip of why he left. Well who cares all you should do as a true Lancer is pray for him and hope the best for all! That’s the OLU way!
Good for him and bad for Orange Lutheran. This is what happens at the private schools. Bad coaching, double standards and money talks.
What would push a starting QB to leave during his senior year? Think about that.
Easy to pin everything on the kid.
Well, from our ivory towers, it’s easy to pin anything on anyone we choose, no? The kid obviously had some issues at OLu, that much is true, right? If he got suspended and demoted and then all of a sudden transferred, it would seem that there is a pretty solid correlation.
Why did the starting MLB from OLU transfer to Yorba Linda this year?
Good question. Also, didn’t Marshaun Daniel from O-lu a RB,who lived in fountain valley transfer to Tustin? I think alot of those kids from ingelwood that was on their 2010 freshman team split too.? (walton,cloy,
rembert)
If Buzzy @ Mission is elgible and now Hill @ Edison, Livingston should be to!!
The Drive for Five is alive!
The only question I would like to know is where did this kid live while attending OL and where is he living now.
Doesn’t seem to matter. Those Pemesa boys and Seneca from a few years back lived in Garden Grove and Tustin, respectively, while attending OLu.
It does, Olu is a private school that draws from a large area. LH is public and had boundries.
Boundaries don’t really matter too much. If you live in LH and really want to go to school in Garden Grove, go for it. Boundaries on a map don’t matter. Either way, what Livingston did is completely legal, and while you guys can argue about it, he has his papers and is good to go.
I dont think anyone in La Habra would want to go to school in GG…boundaries or not.
La Habra’s boundaries also include parts of east Whittier. so if kids live in Whittier they shouldn’t attend La Habra?
Wow, Livingston at LH, he’lll make all the difference in the world in that offense. He’s a proven performer at the Div. I level, Wolterman and Sparling, they don’t have any varsity game experience whatsoever. I had heard they were progressing nicely, but they aren’t Clark Livingston. OLu just lost their best quarterback.
All these transfers this year are quite amusing. Hmmm,… What other powerhouse program in the county who runs a pro-style offense, has another shot at a league title and possibly another CIF title whose missing link is a good QB? Livingston was a good QB in the trinity league, he’ll be dominant in the Freeway league, and probably be one of the of the best in SW Div. ( not so much in the PAC-5 where there are a ton of good QB’s vying for the headlines)
BTW, you don’t think LH has as much exposure as teams in the trinity league? Since Mazzotta took over, LH already have two guys in the NFL, Quezada starting at BYU, Hillman making a run at the Heisman at SDSU, Clements at WSU, Porter going to UCLA, several other D1 scholarships (SMU, Hawaii, etc.) and a truck load of lower division scholarships. There’s alot of upside playing for La Habra. Mazotta’s coaching staff does their best to get their players to the next level. You don’t think players don’t take that into consideration when playing for the Highlanders?
If Livingston is deemed eligible, that LH vs. OLU game this year will take on a whole new twist.
Who are the two kids in the NFL and who is at Hawaii? The bottom line is there was not a QB to help them win another CIF Championship and low and behold one shows up. Come on who is fooling who? I would love to see the cell phone records of the LH coaching staff and the Livingston family and the MD safety. It’s ironic that Peko, Griffen, MD safety and Livingston all show up for the senior years and I believe Hillman moved in before his freshman or sophomore year. (I was told this).
Hey footballmoger…
check jacksonville(saftey) and atlanta(tight end) for the nflers. also db from 2- yrs ago went to Hawaii. Stop hating on la habra. This isnt the same case as the other players. If Livingston was recruited it would of happened at the begining of summer, not 2- weeks before the first game.
I wish both Winterswyck (spelling) and Estrada all the luck in the world and I hope they make it. And the db from two years ago is starting his second year at Cerritos College…
Who was the MD Safety transfer?
uhwarrior ahahahahahah so funny their is no one at hawaii and the nfl pshhhh get out of here
Dan Owens, USC then Detroit lions.
The two kids in the NFL played against each other last Friday on TV….Ryan Wynterswick for Atlanta Falcons & Matt Estrada for Jacksonville Jaquars. Great for LH!!!
Footballmoger- To answer your question: M. Estrada- Jacksonville Jags, and R. Winterwyke – Denver, Broncos. , Hawaii- D. Sierra (He was given a scholarship in 2009-2010, but I dont’ know what happened to him).
I agree, that a QB all of sudden shows up when the QB situation there at LH was tentative at best. There was some talk, that because the current QB’s weren’t good passers the offense was going to be more run oriented. Having Livingston at QB may change that. Does he live in La habra?
Heard the family moved to La Habra, about a mile, maybe less than that from the school
Ryan Winterswyk with the Atlanta Falcons, former 3(4?) year All WAC DE, walk on of the year this past year and i believe years past too.
Matt Estrada with the Jacksonville Jaguars, don’t know his stats.
And i believe Dominic Sierra had an offer from Hawaii ended up going to Cerritos (grades maybe?), but i may be wrong.
UH – “you don’t think LH has as much exposure as teams in the trinity league?”
is not close to what I said, ” he will not get any more or better exposure at LH then he would have for a Trinity league team.
I did not imply ” not as much”.
My reply is more in line with why I would not automatically consider his transfer as athletically motivated , as in he transfered to get “more or better” , like when you go from a not well known program to a known program. LH and OLu are both known programs.
2002T- My question / comment was not directed at you at all. I was referring to the Trinity league because Livingston is coming from the Trinity league. Yes, you are correct the Trinity league gets a ton of exposure, probably more than any other league in So. Cal. But winning 6 CIF championships will get you alot of exposure as well. Livingston knows what he’s doing. My comment was rethorical. lighten-up.
La Habra still loses to Servite and OLu -and if they play another Trinity League team, to 3 Trinity League teams.
It’s great to be a HIGHLANDER!! Most kids want to play for a winning program and a great coaching staff, and that is what LH football is.
Oh Yea…. That game LH vs OLU 9/23/11 just got very very interesting
and also for la habra’s great academics lol that is why we go to school right
so ur saying ur la habra kids arent good enough with out the yearly transfer.
I say let the kids do what they want! Who cares if they do transfer to another school just for the sport! Let it be! Stop trying to ruin there opportunities at success! They chose to go to that school for a reason! For a better FUTURE!
goes to show just how small the fish are in the SW Div./Freeway League when a non-factor in the trinity league can transfer and suddenly he’s the messiah. livingston did nothing of merit in the TL. coward ran away from the beating he’ll get in the toughest league in socal to the cream-puff schedule of the highlanders. LH takes their lumps in pre-season and you’re begging if you think they take #5.
“cream-puff schedule of the highlanders” , Servite cream-puff??! La Habra is biting off more than they can chew for a reason, it makes them better. also, un-like the holy-er than thou’s in the trinity league, there are no messiah’s in public school and the one true messiah doesn’t give a damn about football.
Where is Truth from last year? He would love this..He was always against private schools recruiting but now public schools? I think Truth was behind this..
Need to update that Freeway league preview.
Stu, no need to take a jab at the city of La Habra, with the name calling! Not cool!!
La Habra will still be a wanna-be Pac 5 school, but now has a chance to win that division again. The Trinity League schools will lay down the smack on the Lowlanders again this year. By the way, SOME people in La Habra are cool, most of them remind me of the Raiders fans that we just watched agains SF this past weekend. They harrass kids from the stands, try and mess with the opposing teams fans and smell like they were taste testers at the Budweiser plant.
Classless post!
la habra is classless…their fans and parents are disrespectful and when they are losing whether it is passing league or season they get dirty
Funny only person I have seen tossed from a La Habra game was a player from Fullerton!
if you want to really know what happened~ ask Coach K. there in lies the truth….
Clark Livingston and his family are awesome! they will be missed ..but trust me we all know!
@ OUTSIDER hardly “stiffing” his teammates, they all wish him the best!
u hear that…??? must be FOOTBALL TIME…!!!
The private schools are not for everybody.
And even among the private schools themselves, Mater Dei might be a better fit for a young man than Servite would be … maybe Orange Lutheran is more attractive than Mater Dei … and maybe public school just is a more comfortable place. Sometimes, it takes a student a year or more to figure that out — and to convince the parents that a move is needed.
Public school is not entirely free, according to this taxpayer.
I checked the CIF-Southern Section website, and as of this moment Livingston has not been approved as athletically eligible at La Habra.
Well, this sure changes a few things, if Livingston is declared eligible … time for Fryer to take another look at that preseason top 10!!
Come on Steve you seem to constantly be kissing up to Mission Viejo, Servite, Mater Dei and now La Habra. Quit spinning this to make it not seem as bad as recruiting has become. I believe Levingston played freshman ball at JSerra, sophomore and junior at OLU and now wants to go to La Habra. OLU has not signed any release papers at all and I hope they fight the transfer and if forced to come back make him third string, if they don’t file an objection then the CIF wont do anything.
Clark spent all 3 years at OLU and he was or is from the San Juan Capistrano. area
well both of you are completely wrong
steve can a player (in this case clark livingston ) participate in practice and not be cleared by CIF or is that illegal ? also i think you should tell coach mazzotta since your good friends with him that classes dont start until next week .
Don’t bag on somebodies neighborhood man. It’s a blessing to own a home anywhere these days. It’s not always what you have that makes the difference, it’s what you do with what you have that matters. The community of Whittier/La Habra is behind their kids and they make the most of what they have. Go to one of their games and you’ll see the support and love. If you measure their hearts, the community is a success and a great place to live.
AMEN!
Steve if he participated in practice and has not been cleared by the CIF isn’t that illegal?
I will kiss up to you and answer your question.
A student-athlete can practice if enrolled at the school. That student-athlete cannot participate in interscholastic competition until ruled athletically eligible by the CIF-Southern Section office.
And recruiting has always been there. In the 1960s, kids and their parents fudged addresses so they could play at Big Winner Public School.
And I have no good friends among the coaching fraternity. I socialize with none of them — no lunch meetings, no billiards, ice cream socials, afternoon tea, Angels games, etc.
so……u dont go to Dodgers games……no wonder….I see….
Monger are you a Tustin fan or what? Come on get over it. IIRC the MD kid was expelled from MD he didn’t have the choice of staying there and he lived in LH. I hear this Livingston has lived in LH for some time but thats just a rumor. Again what does La Habra have to offer? How can they recruit other than with their reputation?
To the poster that poo pooed La Habra’s education last time I looked they ranked 25th in the county on test scores. Sonora was 50th. So yeah maybe he came for the education.
Sorry friend…Sonora API 813, La Habra 796=Sonora better academically.
Sorry Steve Sonora has an API of 799. Nice try though. They BOTH have a state rank of 8.
411 check the 2011 estimated API my friend….813…sorry. Read the newspaper brotha.
Amazing we are not talking about ESTIMATED API. The ACTUAL for 2010 was 799!! Sorry! Who cares about Sonora anyway….they are the third best team in La Habra, sorry my friend!
How many Of Sonoras players are now attending Ivy League Universities???
La Habra- has 2:
Avery- CORNELL- on football scholly
Elkington- HARVARD- pure academic scholly
How many Sonora players were Class Valedictorian??
La Habra- 1 and that was Elkington – he was our starting all CIF center,
Sonora will never be at our level!!!!
pretty dawn close ……and we beat u in football….and getting better in baseball…..my son gave u something to think about ….pitcher…back in the day…grad 2001 and 2002…..anyway……it all good
No I’m not from Tustin, I grew up in Yorba Linda but live in Santa Monica and try to get down for 3-4 good Orange County games a year. If the MD player was expelled he is ineligible for sports for the duration of the expulsion and if he transfers the punishment transfers with him. I have two friends that kids play(ed) for La Habra or better yet don’t start because of all the players on their team that live in Sonora’s boundries, Whittier, La Mirada or conveniently moved into the area (for their senior year) whether with a parent or guardian or other relatives. HSBFAN if you don’t see this as being wrong then I guess were differnt types of people.
First, the MD safety was not expelled. Second, the MD safety did not play the previous 12 months of any sport at Mater Dei due to torn ACL which put him out for the season.
Fullerton high school district is open. If you live in it you may attend any of the 6 high schools. Didn’t you know that? Nothing wrong with going to the school you choose is there?
I guess Cinderella is dead. It has taken Mazzota and staff 12 years of hard work and determination to get La Habra to where it is today. Mostly from local talent. The question should be, “ How did they get to where they are with SO LITTLE outside help?” Coach White at Buena Park gets it. He is not whining about LH in his league….He is starting to do what Mazzota and company did over a decade ago….Build a Program!!!
Sounds like this is a great opportunity for all sides to move on and be successful.
Best of luck to OLU, Clark, and La Habra this season.
It is unfortunate that it had to come to this but hopefully both sides learned from the situation.
I agree CF, we need to move on.
“Mostly local talent.” Wow are you serious? Local must mean within a 15 mile radius to you.
is hill didnt get eligibility clark should not and if this is not athletically motivated i dont know what is there are plenty of places he could of gone got my sources saying he moved and who moves to la habra??? one reason ring
A couple of things here:
1) Playing at OLu (and in the Trinity league) is a whole lot different than playing at La Habra. Livingston knows it and that’s why he went to La Habra. It’s the best of the lower division schools and if he had tried to go to another PAC-5 school, he’d have had a tough time beating out the starting QB. The family chose the school VERY CAREFULLY.
2) I’m guessing La Habra is a good choice for most transfers coming from PAC-5 schools because the former coaches don’t have to worry about the players coming back to haunt them in league or the playoffs.
3) OLu should end up being fine. They’re not a pro-style offense, but an option team. So the loss of Livingston should be easier to deal with then losing a RB like Wilson or someone else. (IMO Markowsky was a far better fit for running the option than Livingston)
4) Also, the MD safety that went to La Habra wasn’t a starter. It was smart for him to go to a program where he was a bigger fish in a smaller pond. Now he has a chance to contribute and enjoy himself.
5) I like La Habra, but let’s not start salivating about the OLu game just yet. OLu was pretty young last year, hence their disappointing finish in league. Despite last year’s youth, that game would have been closer to a route if the Lancers would have kept Markowsky at QB in the 2nd half. He was running over La Habra’s defense at will, so putting in Livingston actually helped La Habra.
Wow…all of this over one transfer and you know all the negative comments are coming from the La Habra haters! Also, i moved to la Habra and its a great place to live and raise a family. Its not hard to understand why all you shallow people out there will take shots at the city of La Habra. Also, the notion that la habra is out there recruiting kids like the private schools is ridiculous. if i’m not mistaken La Habra was winning before any transfers starting coming over and any transfer that are coming over now do so because of the winning tradition they have built.
FYI future: Hill is eligible!!
When kids transfer to a private school it’s because they were recruited.
When kids transfer to a public school, it’s because they were attracted to a better school/program
I know people who changed jobs because Job B was a better situation.
I know people sold one home than purchased another in order to secure a better situation.
Of course, recruiting is rampant in the real estate world. Those real estate agents are always leaving calendars and “to-do” notepads, fridge magnets … if that is not undue influence, I don’t know what is.
Maybe if you go from Job A to Job B, you should not be eligible to work at Job B because you transferred to Job B for financially-motivated reasons.
nice analogy…but if Job A had a rule that you could not go work for Job B, then you stay at Job A (non-compete, etc). Kind of like the way the CIF frowns on transfers for athletic reasons. Unfortunately, the CIF needs these kinds of rules or kids would be switching schools each year when they lose their starting positions.
The way to end the whole discussion on transfers, and have the CIF butt out out of anyone’s business regarding who can go were and whether or not they can play,is to have a simple rule:
Any kid from any school can transfer to ANY other school ONCE during his high school career and that transfer has to occur BEFORE the start of that sport season. End of story. Choices have consequences. If you decide to make a change, live with the consequences.
That would FORCE the kids and Parents to THINK very carefully about making any changes regarding schools and programs.
What you don’t realiise is when one player slated #1 in a position feels compelled to transfer due to harassment as so many sides (classroom, admin, coaching) and then Principal signs off and executive signs off but openly shares don’t play the athlete, not due to CIF, but simply out of spite, it is a shame. We are talking about a 4.0 + student who ended up being recruting by D-1 football but played D-1 basketball. Not knowing Clark, Trent and Ashley are closer to reality.
The LH safety was not expelled. He also never played a down of varsity. He blew out his knee and jr year sat on the sidelines in a shirt and tie every single MD varsity game. Lives in La Habra, has for 12 years. Attended, Las Lomas, Las Positas and IMS.
I have three grandson in L.H. pop warner,they and the rest of the boys will keep lhhs football reloaded with local talent.
what does that have to do with this?
scratch that…local talent..goottttt it
ok ,so when your grandsons get to high school and are primed and ready to represent on friday nights,and some trans comes in and takes their spot ,how are you going to feel.poor walterman.hes been waiting and working for 3 years and now this. now hes behind the curve at safety behind the illiegal md transfer.Hey rod,you can afford a rental at any other school in freeway that would love to have cole.
wow me ,yes it would be difficult, as it would be to go thru your sr. yr with little play time. At LHFB, every player is important, ever position is important, noname players help win cif sw div. rings. ” top 10″ look right see you at the games
Let LH have Livingston. IT’S HIS 2nd TRANSFER, or did you forget how he made it to OLu? Was it JSerra first, or did he transfer out and back to OLu from J Serra – I can’t remember.
“He may run like Mays, but he hits like Hayes” I bet it’s going to be open season on him from all Trinity league schools – Servite will have him first. Trinity UNITE!
Everyone may be able to play at the higest level, but that doesn’t mean they can compete. Fact is he has it worse at LH. He has to play the Trinity before he and his team will be ready! Let’s see if he makes it out of the first three games…
Mattie,
Your intimidation is weak! Livingston or Cole are not scared, neither are the rest of the highlanders. The fact is he moved to La Habra,
and looks great! Face it, LH is coming after you and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it!! GO CLAN!!
dangerousd,
0-3, once again to the Trinity.
That’s just reality.
randy, I guess LH sould just roll over then, because you said so? Thats why they play the game bro! LH has the big game experience it didn’t have last year and will be ready to rock and roll!
GO CLAN!!
hey randy, how many trinity teams are Whittier schools playing this year?
BE REAL….LA HABRA SHOULD BE DIV.2 OR 3 BUT WHY NOT CHALLEAGE THE BEST….THERE DOING PRETTY GOOD DOING WHAT THERE DOING….REMEMBER WE’RE PUBLIC SCHOOL…..WHAT’S IN TRINTY LEAGUE????? BUY YOUR TEAM…..THANK YOU VERY MUCH…
The only thing keeping LH from beating trinity schools are the private schools themselves. Look at Servites roster the past few years plenty of LH kids. If Livingston lives in LH than no foul! La Habra gets the cupboards raided all the time, but we dont complain. We just win!
THE DRIVE FOR FIVE!!!!!!!
WE RUN FOR ONE!!!
OK, then step up and beat a Trinity or Sunset league team. Dominate someone other than the Freeway League.
OK…SAN CLEMENTE…LAST YR. HELLO…FIRST GAME WITH LOS AL 23 TO 20 YEA WE LOST BUT WHY DO THEY KEEP PLAYING LAHABRA …….CAUSE THEY CAN COMPETE….
OK, Let’s see. Remember the good old days when Los Al won everything. They were dominant in Division II. Step up to D. 1 and they continue to be good, but not dominant. La Habra is the same deal. Stay in D II an keep winning championships. Step up to D 1 and . . . well, you get it . . . LH is another also ran.
LH wanted to play with the Big Boys and, my guess is that after this season it will be 0-6 vs Trinity League Teams . . . even with Clark.
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reese get off oc varsity and work on you PAT so you don’t hit your linemen in the back of the head….. again
Ha! no one was standing up for what he said and did. And cussing does not make football better. Better coaching makes better football. The likes of Troy Thomas and Bruce Rollinson do not need to cuss to make their teams better. Sorry he felt it was not necessary to take the punishment with the crime.
I can tell you unequivocally that not everybody is sad to see this young man go. The best leaders at OLU have been the QB’s all the way back to guys like Juliano and Odenath not to mention Blackamore and Corp all these young men were leaders who made the players around them better. QB sets the tone and if it’s a negative tone then wherever he plays he won’t grow up and be better. Leaders always lead. Can’t build teams with users and takers.
FBM—-My bad….All but a few over the past 12 years.
Who are we to say a kid can or cannot transfer?? as long as he does it legally he has every right to try and get the best opportunity for himself. He went to a private school and now is transferring to a public school. Who knows his family situation. Best of luck to the kid and his new team
I don’t mean to discount what Mazzotta has done at La Habra; he has turned what was a mediocre football team into a genuine division one football team. The problem is, his team should have been moved into a more challenging league FIVE YEARS AGO. I grow tired of hearing La Habra fans declare how ‘dominant’ their team is, and asking ‘got rings?’, when this team would be just a middle-of-the-pack performer in leagues such as the Sunset or Moore. Notice that La Habra lost to Sunset league power Los Alamitos twice, and was beaten by its three Trinity league opponents last year. To illustrate my point, what do you think would happen if a team like Edison were to trade places with La Habra? They would immediately dominate the freeway league and start collecting rings. I see La Habra as being on par with a team like Newport Harbor; it’s time to put them in a division one league and let the chips fall where they may.
La Habra’s hands are tied. They can’t move into a different division. The school district is making them stay in the freeway. They are dominant! They have managed to 4 peat and beat many different schools in the process. They are not claiming to be a trinity team, but they want to play teams like that to help them get better. Don’t hate, cuz “got rings??” That’s right “We DO!!”
I heard that 411! La Habra has beat pac 5 teams in San Clemente and Trabuco Hills twice! They have been competitive vs O-lu and should have won. Played LosAl to a 4pt and 7 pt game, Servite only scored 16pts offensivly and Bosco was 24-17 halftime lead before the wheels fell off. Face it LH still getting better and “oh wait a minute”……
Do you hear that?… Its another RING!!!
tHE dRIVE FIR FIVE IS ALIVE
Let’s not forget La Habra had injuries to key players for those trinity league games. I don’t see anyone complaining about the private schools use of “scholarships” and people shipping their kids into them from other cities, counties and states. La Habra has none of the things private scools use to recruit except a winning reputation and a great coaching staff.
Being ringless makes one envious it seems.
GOT RINGS?
That Bosco came could have very easily ended 49-17 too. Martin Brown fumbled at the 1 yard line a minute before half.
Works both ways.
Dangerous,
Let’s get it right. The score of the Bosco vs. LH game was 21 – 7 at the half and LH scored on a hail mary in the closing minute of the 1st half. Further, LH never moved the ball past mid-field the entire half. In the 2nd half, it was more of the same with Bosco extending their lead to 37 – 7 before they cleared the bench and LH scored 10 points in garbage time. I’m not sure what game you were watching, or if you were watching, but your recollection is a bit off – it was total domination by Bosco. Oh and guess what, Bosco is better this year and ranked #4 in the Pac5 by OCVarsity going into the season. Livingstone or no Livingston, LH is going to have a rough September.
Dangerous, i like LH but dont get carried away with yourself.
if you beat a team that is not in the Pac 5, and in later seasons that team is considered to be better and moves up to the Pac 5, it really doesnt count as a win over a Pac 5 team unless they are IN the Pac 5 when you beat them. The wins over Trabuco Hills in the CIF Championship games were when they were in the Sea View.
what happen to Trabco last year when they got moved up to the Pac 5, 0-4 in league play, just like LH being 0-3 and losing to the 4th and 5th place teams in the Trinity. JSerra looks like they could win Rings to if LH and JSerra switched places. And it looks like LH might do just as well as JSerra in the Pac 5. no one considers JSerra a threat in any Pac 5 league
I AGREE……OVER AND OVER…..AND I’M A LAHABRA FAN
Oh that’s hilarious, Frank Mazzotta had no idea about it until the AD introduced him, “people move for weird things” uh huh I’m, sure Frank. Nothing shady about this at all, nothing…typical LHHS, the Miami U of the Freeway League.
Always good to see LHHS grad Steve Fryer trolling the comments section of a publication he writes for, must stink not having a life Fryer!
Know for a fact, he will be ruled eligible.
to Clarks ex-teammate- stop being a hater, just let clark do what he wants and do whats best for him, private school isnt for everyone
Then transfer to where you should actually go to. lol
Free lunches to any kid that wants to play for Mazzotta, ooops is that undue influence?
Clark, is an amazing football player, and all these people who bag on him.. Have no idea what the real situation was..Everyone should calm down, and not ruin clarks mentally, by just trashing him..I think everyone should realize that he is an amazing kid, with talent like no other. Back off!!!
I got you clarkyyy
I’ve got no issue with someone wanting to change jobs, schools or whatever to better his situation.
I DO have a problem with someone in a key leadership position to leave his teammates at the last minute because he was unwilling to be held accountable for something he had previously agreed to.
It speaks volumes, not only to the character of the person leaving, but of the people willing to accept that person to now assume that leadership position in the new organization.
It sounds like alot of hypocrates in the room. This kid deserves a second chance, isn’t that what god would do? Forgive and move on.
What happend anyway?? If he moved to La Habra Like Buzzy @ Mission He’s all good. Oh, by the way Hill @ Edison is now elgible.
Good luck Clark!! Go Clan!!
First off, this is not a second chance, it’s a third. JSerra – OLu and not LH.
Second, Buzzy to MV is Bogus
Hill to Edison is Bogus.
CIF is weak and refuses to enforce its own rules. I say get rid of the rule regarding “athletically motivated” transfers and let everyone transfer wherever they want as many times as they want. If you’re not going to enforce the rule, it ain’t a rule
This isn’t about which team gets better or worse from a transfer, and it’s certainly not about 2nd, 3rd or 4th chances or forgiveness. And truly the last thing it is really not about is “hating” on a kid, or even football for that matter.
It’s all about the grown-ups who once again enable another kid to avoid being held accountable for “poor choices”, and villifying the one that DOES try to do that.
It’s really sad to see this, knowing full well yet another kid will have to pay a much bigger price down the road when he is finally held accountable. Life always holds us accountable at some point.
Coaches of HS student athletes are the leaders of their teams. Student athletes are learning to be leaders from their adult mentors. Livingston will have an opportunity to learn from someone new now. Seems like the LH organization understands this a little better than what you are willing to give credit for.
Bick- I’m with you on this. I’m not sure what the situation is at OLU and what occurred to make Livingston transfer at the last minute to another school with a strong football program, but it is “weird” (to coin a phrase others have used).
I also question a kids character if he act’s up in class, gets punished by the coach by sending him to third / scout team, and in turn he transfers? If coach K at OLu was trying to send a message to a top player and the rest of the team, I support him 100%. No one player is bigger than the team and the program. I doubt that coach K would have left him on third team. When the battles of the Trinity league start to heat up you gotta go with your experienced, proven guys, Livingston being one of them. I’m sure he would not have been in a back-up role for very long there.
But then again, he may have transferred to LH for other reasons.
Hopefully, he won’t be a primadonna at LH. Anyway, just random thoughts. Peace.
To much into high school football vs. what is best for Clark. To much money involved, enrollment, and future of what determines the coined phrase, champions for life. High school athletes future and self esteem destroyed by these over ego coaches who at times get recognized as coaches of the year. Fryer dies not help. Not bi partisan.
To all those people hating on Clark Livingston, you should really look at the bigger picture. He is a guy with a lot of talent, and who clearly would do anything to play football. Instead of reading something like this, and putting all this negativity towards a 17 year old. Everyone should take in the situation, and applaud him for staying strong throughout all the publicity of this school transfer. He is a hardworking, dedicated football player, who would do anything to have a future within the football career. You don’t find many of those hardworking players, now in days. People tend to get lazy. To all these people who are reading this you should really re think what you post about Clark, because he is one great guy with a lot of talent.
Ashley is right on. To many politics by coach insiders from school to school, over critical of 15-18 year olds as big time boosters pressure private school six figure earners, thus pressure on negative reaction by administration without accountability. Recruiting d-1, there all guilty public and private.
Can you guys just leave him alone? Is it really effecting you that much? Who cares that he transfered or why he did, it’s his decision and really none of your business. And whoever said that OLU’s tuition is 15,000 you’ve got it wrong, get your facts straight. OLU is a great school and will support Clark through whatever he does with his life/future. You all are just hating. Leave the poor kid alone.
I hate to hear how many of you will cry the blues when you see the enrollment at LHHS swell once Octomom’s kids enroll in approximately 10 years. Even she knows what school has the best coaches and educators. Or then again, maybe Servite, OLU, or MD will be generous and offer something to one or more of her young STUDS!
All I know is this affects the OLu team much more than people realize. QB is the most important position on the field and OLu has no formidable backup for Clark. They have so much young talent but if there is no QB to feed that talent what’s the point? Maybe a young QB will come through but its clear that there is no guy that has proven himself and I think this kills OLu.Hopefully someone proves me wrong.
AA- “To all these people who are reading this you should really re think what you post about Clark, because he is one great guy with a lot of talent.”
Unfortunately, most of us who post on this particular blog don’t know Livingston personally and can only make comments based on the face value of this article. However, based on the comments and his track record, you kinda question his motivation to transfer. If it’s legit, so be it.
“He is a hardworking, dedicated football player, who would do anything to have a future within the football career.” Does that include transferring to 3 different high schools just to play football? and leaving his teammates “high and dry”? He may be a dedicated fooball player but is he a TEAM player? Which at times require humiliation and sacrifice. I’m sure Mazzotta will find out soon enough.
I am blessed to get to cover high school football, the excitement is unmatched and the life lessons taught create some of the most rewarding moments one can have in the sports journalism industry. As a person who is a fan of High School football, and the purity of the game, I cannot understand the hate and negativity towards one 17 year old over a transfer. On matter such as this I normally keep my mouth shut, but all of these comments have ZERO benefit to the situation, they only create harder feelings and worsen the emotions already being felt. It is a sad day at Orange Lutheran that they lose a student such as Clark. It is completely unfair to judge a student or a program based on a situation littered with hear say, false knowledge, and pseudo-information. This is not what high school football is about. I for one could not be more excited for September 2 and the start of the 2011 season. Lets please keep this all in perspective. This is not the NFL. These are amateur athletes, many of whom are minors. It is best to treat them as such and give them our support as fans, friends, family, alumni, and classmates.
Trenton,
I know you cover Lancer sports…but just like I was about to post on the other board….you really don’t have much to add if you’re not willing to spill the beans on what you know & I do happen to think you know the whole story.
Randy, this is a private and personal matter between Orange Lutheran High School and the Livingston family. I will not discuss this situation any further. I would just ask that this board and the other board respect the parties involved and let the appropriate course of action take place. If you or anyone else has any football related questions regarding Orange Lutheran I would be happy to address them and give you honest feedback about what I have seen at practice. Thank you for your concern.
LET IT BE
Trenton Schlom; Well said!
Randy in Whittier; get a life and stop trying to find out what happend, its non of your business what happend!
Riose, I know the story.
I know enough people directly involved with the program to have heard the story by now.
I just found Trenton’s rose-colored glasses synopsis a little useless.
Are all of you honestly attacking a 17 year old. Yes, being an amzing athlete at a big time school gets you publicity but that doesnt change the fact that you are bashing a teenager. Especially those of you who are adults……your the examples in teens lives…..think about that. Stop hating on Clark and let him play the game he loves in peace. Reality check: life isnt perfect and changes happen, dont pull people down just because you cant control yourself.
Welcome to D-1. Ugly is n’t it.? Cif should be doing more and Fryer should quit accommodating it. Inner circle rule. what a shame. I will hope for great things for Clark. Great things for Lutheran. These overly high paid high school coaches rule he campuses at many schools. NCAA seems to be getting closer to reigning in things. Not perfect, but CIF is out of control. Need accountability system for administration, ad’s, and coaches. At times coaches and administration make it real difficult when they don’t get their way when CIF rules where followed. The 15-18 year pays the price – trust me from experience.
really? well said!
i going to tick everybody off with this. “FOOTBALL” , its just a game, let the kid play it
This blog is not about clark, lutheran, or any other school. Face it, Clark being the premier quarterback got in coach k dog house and opted out. good for him, go for lh. fresh starts are good for people. Liet’s hope inner circle doesn’t ruin clark for his future. Shouldn’t he isn’t going to a trinity school.
Trenton Schlom…100% agree!Thank you for your post…I wish Clark and his family all the best in LH and for a better senior year…looking forward to see him play this.
I don’t think there is hatred towards the young man, it is the fact that here is another case in which an athlete transfers from one school to another. La Habra was in need of a QB and they got it. That just makes it smell a litttle funny. He could have easily gone to any other school but he and his family choose LH. This move was based on athletics and not academics.
I personally think he came to LH because he can throw to Brett Bartolone.
Anyone know where that Bartolone WR is headed for college? I heard Air Force offered full ride. He reminds of Wes Welker.
They need to use that kid on punt and kick returns like they did his sophmore year.
nice handle, that says it all
The CIF is gonna step in here. This will not go smoothly. The timing of the transfer is late and it involves two high profile schools. The CIF will scrutinize this transfer with a microscope and a scapel. Stay tuned…….
And eventually it will get cleared. Same old song and dance.
I hope OLU brings it BIG TIME to this kid on September 23rd.
Should be awesome.
their going to have to get around Porter. good luck with that
Nice one Randy. Let me guess. You never got past JV in high school. OLU is playing La Habra not the Qb. Go back to Oakland with that mentality.
OLU is reloaded this year. Everyone needs to stop talking because its not about words, but with each and every individuals actions. We’ll see september 3rd and september 23rd especially. Bring it gentlemen.
Clan91, that’s why you guys wouldn’t last a season in the Pac 5.
How can all these LH supporters/parents be so concerned about this kid’s character or his school behaviour…there are and have been LH players with questionable behaviour- How about Porter…how soon we all forget..what about players being expelled for possesion..what about all the GPA’s below 2.0…parents should just worry about their own kid.
The reality is football is aboutt winning games- if you think its about bonding and creating memories- then you need to go back to the YMCA league. Its not about coaches being mentors- parents should be their mentors….the only one that gets screwed is that Wolterman kid and his family….all his years into the program and now there is a possibilty that he will not start…what kind of mentor dose that…what kind of coach that cares dose that…its all about winning
M.Yass – The LH supporters/parents are not saying the negative things about Clark, it is all the bitter Haters out there. The LH family has welcomed him with open arms. Go Clan!!
Of course you are; he might save your season but if he ended up transferring to Fullerton we would be hearing a different tune from the LH backers. BTW the first person who says that’s not true is a bold faced liar. Also I don’t believe in ripping this kid, it’s his parents (either transferring him or allowing him to transfer three times in a four year high school career) and the fact that the La Habra coach thinks that people actually believe his quotes in this article.
Well, if he went to Fullerton so be it. La Habra would be ready to compete with them. Your quote on if he went to a different school we’d all be crying………..I guess that’s why you are on here!!!? If YOU can’t admit that than YOUR a BOLDFACED LIAR!! What ‘s wrong he left your school or didn’t go to it? GET OVER IT!! La Habra was winning before Clark and will continue to work hard with or without Clark. The Trinity teams raid the cupboards in every city and state imaginable and they are always the first to cry foul when a kid transfers to a public school. Imagine if they could only have kids from their city…..how dominate would they be???
i agree 411, with or with out him La Habra will reign supreme again this year. i believe the reason everybody’s hating on La Habra is because they secretly wish they lived here, and their a bunch of sore losers. and all this “STUFF” about our fans disrespecting the other side is stupid. all i ever see is our fans having a good time watching football standing shoulder to shoulder with the competition at the end zone fence.
How do you know that all the “Haters” on this blog are not LH parents/supporters?…Do You really believe all LH parents are happy about these last minute transfers coming in and taking someones spot?
Its not what you know but who you know these days, Parents have not forgotten about what he and some other student atheletes allegedly did a few years back. Not fair in the sense there are probably better students that don’t have the atheletics and are overlooked when it comes to high school football and college scholarships .If they did nothing wrong why were they expelled from La Habra High School for a semester ?
LaHabras gonna roll through the trinity league schools this year…!!!watch kids.,..ur daddy says so…
suptheen, i appreciate your optimism. I’d settle for 1-2 against trinity.
I agree with footballmonger. La Habra is in need of a QB and out of the blue here comes one that has talent. The La Habra fan are very happy to get him but if the shoe were on the other foot you all would be complaining.
I have just finished reading every comment in this string of diatribe and the facts are clear, first and foremost, this is a child, someone who is to be protected by our society from harm. Many comments are borderline abusive. Private vs Public school. It is unfortunate but true, as parents we want to give our children the best advantage regarding education. Private schools will always have an educational advantage by virtue of their ability to accept a higher caliber of student. That said, the parents of this young man made a decision, we hope, based on the best interest of their son.
Suptheen… On a given day, this La Habra team could pound out a win against a Trinity team, but you’re wrong if you think we are going to “roll through” the their League. If we compete well and get through pre-season with no major injuries, I will consider it a victorious pre-season. As a long time follower of Mazzota and Company, I want to see the team in Anaheim this December.
It really dosen’t matter who the QB is…their OL is sad….
finally a voice of reason
The way to end the whole discussion on transfers, and have the CIF butt out of everyone’s business regarding who can go were and whether or not they can play, is to have a simple rule:
Any kid from any school can transfer to ANY other school ONCE during his high school career and that transfer has to occur BEFORE the start of that sport season. End of story. Choices have consequences. If you decide to make a change, live with the consequences.
That would FORCE the kids and Parents to THINK very carefully about making any changes regarding schools and programs.
There is a CIF rule by which a student-athlete can make one transfer, before the start of the sophomore year, without having to make a change of residence. After that, change of residence, etc. must be in place.
Getting rid of this “athletically motivated” language would be a good move.
And keep in mind — all rules and by-laws in CIF are made by CIF member schools, and only those schools can amend or repeals said rules and by-laws.
AND ONE MORE THING … somebody said I need to get a life and not troll for comments? Well,
1.) Mixing it up here with the readership is part of my job in these Internet-heavy days; and 2.) still slipped in a half-hour’s worth of bodysurfiing yesterday (mushy 2-foot stuff — about right for this 53-year old).
Right on Steve! Where do i apply? Get into surfing and meet up with us out at “old mans”.
Athletically motivated wording is used for a reason. The ONLY people that want it done away with are those that it benefits if done away with or alumni for which ever school it would benefit.
No kid should be allowed to transfer 3 or 4 times in a 4 year period and play sports. No acceptable reason. None. Transfer as many times as you want, but don’t play sports.
Steve: Your kids slip and slide DOES NOT count as body surfing.
That is rude to say that there are slum apts. La Habra has affordable living for all. If you drive around the neighborhoods near La Habra, you will find houses and apts. that middle class famlies can afford, whether your single or 2 incomes. La Habra is a great place to live. La Habra has great community support and if you need a apt. or a house for cheap or even a expensive 1 please contact Frank and Kathy Felix!
The have supported the community for years. Go Clan!!
lahabra is the greatest city to play highschool football in…the town rallies around their team every year…ever go to a lahabra home game>? never mind the home games, even the away games lahabra manages to pack in more fans than the home team…bottom line is playing for lahabra is like playing for a college team in the sense of u get that real community feel…u can tell the whole city is backing their men…if u ask me, theres no where else id like to play, even over any private school…
Does it really give you a community feeling when 25% of your team either lives out of La Habra boundaries or conveniently just moved there for their senior year.
Doesn’t the Fullerton District have open enrollment? Before their run of CIF Championships started, didn’t La Habra raid Sonora of their key players? Don’t almost all of the kids that play La Habra Youth Football go to La Habra High School. Just asking?
monger,
first of all 25 % is not correct!
“” monger, La Habra is a tight knit community . Yes we feel it!!
Even if a family wants to move into LH and finds that there is affordable living and can play ball, ITS ALL GOOD! We will treat you like familia,
we will break bread togther and then break some bones on friday night!
If you are a hater, YOUR NOT WELCOME HERE!! BEAT IT!
Anyone who beleives this gibberish from Mazotta, “I didn’t know about it until my AD introduced him,” is living in a fantasy world. If you think that La Habra is not recruting I can tell you for a fact that they are. Kids from the La Serna High School district in Whittier have been recruited or ” encouraged,” to play for the Clan. Maybe not directly by Mazzotta, but none the less “influenced.” Recruiting, in whatever form it takes, is a fact of life in HSFB. This occurs in both the public and private schools and the accountability ultimately falls on the parents of these kids.They are responsible for allowing these players to move and their motivations range from exposure to playing time to the dislike of a coach. The kids ultimately learn that they don’t have to live up to their commitment to a team or how to stick it out when things don’t go your way. Unfortunately, that is a difficult lesson to learn later on in life and has larger repurcussions than what team you are suiting up for on Friday nights.
Hard to believe kids want to play at a winning program isn’t it? There is no recruiting, they come to play football. To recruit you need something to entice the recruit with just what do you think Livingston got for comming to LH? He was going to start at O’Lu so it isn’t ploaying time. Exposure? He’d get more at O’Lu. Money? Sorry that’s just funny! He left what is suppossed to be a better school and program for no apparent gain so please fill me in on his motivation?
You don’t need to offer him anything, just making the suggestion is illegal. The suggestion alone can make a16-17 year old start to think. OLU is/was a fourth place team at best. La Habra is always the frontrunner to win the WEAK Freeway League and perennially a top two team in their division.
I get it. You don’t know you are just upset it’s not the team you are a fan of. Got it!
footballmonger, I can see you dont follow Pac 5 football much with your comment “OLu is/was a fourth place team at best”.
Olu may have had a down year last year but they have been one of the best teams in the Pac 5 since joining in 2006.
2006 1st place in Trinity and CIF Champions
2007 3rd Place in Trinity and lost to Poly ( score 2-0) in Simi Final
2008 1st place in Trinity and lost to Tesoro in Simi Final
2009 2nd place in Trinity and lost in 1st round to Dana
and they could have always beat La Harba in all of those years including in their 4th place finish last year.
In the CIF’s eyes, the desire to play for a winning program is irrelevant if you are enrolled at another school.I can’t speak to his motivation as none of us will really know what that may be. If I had to guess, his exposure at a middle of the pack trinity league school might be greater but he can post huge numbers at La Habra in a lower division against talent that does not compare to the trinity league teams. Bottom line is his numbers will be huge on a team that rolls over a weak league and he gets to stick it in to his former coach at the same time. I never mentioned money as a motivator and I would seriously question the thought that La Habra is a better school that Olu.
Steve,
Is also one of your reasons for not having a problem with this kids transfer to La Habra the fact that it took about 15 minutes for La Habra to now have a copy of Olus playbook?
Another “GIFT” from the heavens right?
You build a good “program” and players will come. The difference is La Habra is not a traditional D-1 powerhouse, which seems to disturb some people. The Highlander’s are not a one season wonder! Players will continue to come. Get use to it!
SKYS THE LIMIT!
“THE DRIVE FOR 5 IS ALIVE!
So are you saying that it is ok for kids to make athletically motivated, rule breaking transfers, since La Habra has built a good program? True, the Highlanders are not a one season wonder but if the cost of winning is breaking the rules, it produces tainted championships. Let’s see how many championships the Clan would win playing in the PAC 5. They went 0-3 last year against the trinity league and will probably be 0-6 when their non-league schedule is complete this year. Anyone who follows local HSFB is used to it…La Habra has thrived by being a big fish in a little pond.
Ok, u guys have hit over the 200 mark, u all need to get a life!
Livingston is a beast and I can’t wait to see OLU get dominated by him come week 4. Kunau drove him out of there, don’t try to put this on Clark and one outburst, everyone knows him and K never saw eye to eye, so don’t act like this is sudden, OLU is gonna have a long year with him gone
hahahaha…4 transfers in 4 years. I bet the coach drove him out at each one, eh!? You get what you sow.
Doesn’t the Fullerton District have open enrollment? Didn’t La Habra raid Sonora for years to get their program flying. Don’t all of the local pop warner kids in that area go to La Habra? Just asking
As a kid that grew up in La Habra, believe me La Habra doesn’t raid sonora. If you want to play football you go to La Habra period. Sonora has never had a great football program. The program at La Habra carries and speaks for itself. Fyi: as an incoming freshman you can pick ANY high school in fullerton joint high school district to attend…DOESN”t matter where you live within the district.
What about the kids from other districts that are encouraged to go to La Habra.
Yes Kim the district is open, Sonoras program is one that was never strong, Lhhs gets the local youths and Sonora does too and kids from brea pw, most all the schools have a sports that’s real strong, troy for example is nails in girls basketball I think they own 5 or 6 CIF titles and maybe 2-3 states, but what’s funny no one complains that they drop the hammer in everyone in league, baseball at Fullerton and Sonora are real good and SHS boys hoops is always a top ten team, All these schools offer a kid something to polish their skills to get to the next level.
Once again no La Habra fan will mention the kids that you take from Brea, Whittier and La Mirada.
They don’t “take”, the kids come on their own. How many does Servite “take” yet you’re not complaining? Or O’Lu, Bosco etc.
I agree with you ‘somewhat’ on your private school point, however those are private schools. There are no boundaries for private schools but there is for public schools. I think Mater Dei staerted the demise of high school athletics when they were blatantly recruiting basketball players in the 1980′s. Unfortunately CIF needs to either enforce or restrict transfer rules or completely abandon them.
Once again I will tell you kids that are in the Lowell Joint School District which includes Whittier and uincorporated La Mirada are ALLOWED to go to La Habra. Why is that so hard to understand?? As for Brea, I doubt they would come to La Habra. They are more likely to go to a South County school. Like I said, in this area the program speaks for itself. Obvoiusly if you lived in North Orange County you would know that. The same reasons that parents choose private or public. As parents we are allowed to make choices that we feell are in the best interest for our children.There are also academic programs offered at some schools and not at others. That is also a factor in choosing a high school. So, If I live in Fullerton, but my child wants to become a doctor and I send him to Sonora(in La Habra) for the medical program and he happens to play a certain sport, what is wrong with that? It is perfectly legal to do in our district. But then, people want to come on the boards and get mad that my child isn’t at school in Fullerton.
What about the kids that should be going to La Serna or Cal High and there is no such place as unincorporated La Mirada.
Yes there is a portion of East La Mirada that is unincorporated. The children that live in this area are part of The Lowell Joint School District, Not Norwalk/La Mirada s.d. Their address is still a La Mirada zip code though. What about kids from Cal or La Serna? Are we gonna go through every single city in Los Angeles and Orange County? They are neighboring cities and if approved by their districts they can go to high school where they choose. Let me put it this way, you will NOT find one high school in either Orange or Los Angeles county where the ENTIRE school population is from ONLY kids in that city. If you know of one SPEAK up! If not enough already! EVERY school gets transfers, get over it. You are just bitter.
BREA?? who wants anyone from that school?? Those kids are to scared to come play at La Habra. Their varsity team looked as good as La Habras freshman team 2010.
I really feel bad for you. Go put on your Dodgers jacket and polish your Raiders license plate. Winner!
don’t feel bad for dangerous, he is just saying what we all know. People in Brea like to think that they are uppity and would NEVER go to La Habra, because they are so much better. How you got a raider and dodger connection….I feel bad for you. Stereotype much? loser!
Footballmonger…Where did you get your 25% figure? Did you hack the district computers? You can argue that some players enroll at La Habra for football, the same as you can say others go to Troy for it’s Technical programs, but to just make up stats to prove your argument doesn’t give you much credibility.
From a parent who’s son plays for La Habra. They have five sophomores alone that live in La Serna’s district plus about 8 that should be playing for Sonora, two for La Mirada (left after freshman football last year) plus the new MD safety and OLU QB…
I think your numbers are high. 1 from La Mirada I know of. Sonora doesn’t count since kids can choose any school in the district and I know some La Habra kids have gone to Sonora because they thought they would get more playing time. I don’t have the story on the MD safety but I don’t think leaving MD was his choice.
Lets cool our jets—Hyped up QB’s have yet to impress. I hope the back up’s surprise the heck out of the highlanders…now that will be a story! And nooo, I’m not a parent of a LHHS player— just a mom with some past experience dealing with nutty parents/bratty players/ and coaches who just want to win at any expense. I say go La Habra!! good luck to the kids that have been loyal to their team and community. I hope your other QB ‘s show us what they gotttt. .
Personally, I’m cheering for the underdogs just south of La Habra
Now, they will be struttin their stuff~~~
now thats funny
LOL
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Livingston will not play a single down this season.
good choice Clark.
@ rootsonthevine, do you tnik before commenting? How can you make such a comment when LH got beat by the only three Trinity League teams they’ve faced; two of the three were total beat downs. You LH people have no class and I can’t wait for Sept 28th when we whip your tails by even more than we did last season. Oh and by the way, Servite and OLu will beat your little D6 clan again. Remember dude, LH is a D6 team – mind your place.
LOL not only that….you know Bosco will probably have more fans there than the Highlanders.
Seems those D6 freshman whooped your purchased trinity D1 players. Know what? Those freshamn will grow up to play varsity!