Comments on: New CIF-SS boys water polo rankings (Oct. 27) http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/ High school sports talk by the staff of the Orange County Register Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:44:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Old Dude http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7279 Old Dude Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:38:28 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7279 CIF just posted the ranking. Again I ask how do you lose 5 of 6 games and move up in the rankings. Three South Coast League teams again. I guess the South Coast League is the second best League in Division II just behind the Trinity League. (OR) If your League has a coach which is on the advisory committee you get three teams ranked automatically. (I guess Long Beach Wilson did not get the memo). CIF just posted the ranking. Again I ask how do you lose 5 of 6 games and move up in the rankings. Three South Coast League teams again. I guess the South Coast League is the second best League in Division II just behind the Trinity League. (OR) If your League has a coach which is on the advisory committee you get three teams ranked automatically. (I guess Long Beach Wilson did not get the memo).

]]> By: Old Dude http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7277 Old Dude Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:09:36 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7277 How does Mission Viejo stay in the top 10 when they have lost 5 of their last 6 games. How does Mission Viejo stay in the top 10 when they have lost 5 of their last 6 games.

]]> By: El Mo dad http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7255 El Mo dad Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:16:19 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7255 Thanx for the link/Info Old Dude. That sheds quite a bit of light on division ll rankings. I'll save my comments for the release of this weeks rankings. Thanx for the link/Info Old Dude. That sheds quite a bit of light on division ll rankings. I'll save my comments for the release of this weeks rankings.

]]> By: Erik Davidson http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7233 Erik Davidson Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:40:05 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7233 The rankings come out once a week on Monday's. There will be another one later today. They are not instant. The rankings come out once a week on Monday's. There will be another one later today. They are not instant.

]]> By: John http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7218 John Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:44:16 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7218 Corona Del Mar ranked a mere 8th, that seems weak considering the recent win over NP Harbor last week, and Foothill this weekend in the Memorial Tournament. With all the CIF efforts to disallow a young transfer student from playing with CDM, now they try to keep them low in the rankings! It will all come out in the wash, you can't hold these guys back, they will be on top when all is said and done. Corona Del Mar ranked a mere 8th, that seems weak considering the recent win over NP Harbor last week, and Foothill this weekend in the Memorial Tournament.
With all the CIF efforts to disallow a young transfer student from playing with CDM, now they try to keep them low in the rankings!
It will all come out in the wash, you can't hold these guys back, they will be on top when all is said and done.

]]> By: Old Dude http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7210 Old Dude Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:06:31 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7210 These are the three coaches from the CIF Division II advisory committee that rank the Division II teams for CIF. Division II Tony Martinho Wilson/ Long Beach 562-433-0481 ext. 6566 martinhosurf@charter.net Chris Segesman Mater Dei 714-850-9574 csegesman@materdei.org Steve Yancey Capistrano Valley 949-364-6100 sjyancey@capousd.org Long Beach Wilson 11- wins and 10 - losses (as of Oct 28) http://www.wilsonboysaquatics.org/WPSchedule.cfm?Team=Var South Coast League League Overall Team W-L-T Win % W-L-T Win % Mission Viejo 3-1-0 0.750 15-9-0 0.625 Dana Hills 3-1-0 0.750 15-11-0 0.577 Tesoro 2-2-0 0.500 14-6-0 0.700 Capistrano Valley 2-2-0 0.500 12-12-0 0.500 San Clemente 2-2-0 0.500 7-12-0 0.368 Aliso Niguel 0-4-0 0.000 11-15-0 0.423 The top 6 in Division II no question are probably the best. But from 7 down it seems to be a toss up. 3 teams from the South Coast League ranked or given consideration (Tesoro and Dana Hills) does not seem to be justified. We will see on Wednesday when three teams from the South Coast League play against three teams from the Century League which League is stronger and should be given more consideration in the Division II CIF rankings. These are the three coaches from the CIF Division II advisory committee that rank the Division II teams for CIF.

Division II

Tony Martinho
Wilson/ Long Beach
562-433-0481 ext. 6566
martinhosurf@charter.net

Chris Segesman
Mater Dei
714-850-9574
csegesman@materdei.org

Steve Yancey
Capistrano Valley
949-364-6100
sjyancey@capousd.org

Long Beach Wilson
11- wins and 10 - losses (as of Oct 28)
http://www.wilsonboysaquatics.org/WPSchedule.cfm?Team=Var

South Coast League
League Overall
Team W-L-T Win % W-L-T Win %
Mission Viejo 3-1-0 0.750 15-9-0 0.625
Dana Hills 3-1-0 0.750 15-11-0 0.577
Tesoro 2-2-0 0.500 14-6-0 0.700
Capistrano Valley 2-2-0 0.500 12-12-0 0.500
San Clemente 2-2-0 0.500 7-12-0 0.368
Aliso Niguel 0-4-0 0.000 11-15-0 0.423

The top 6 in Division II no question are probably the best. But from 7 down it seems to be a toss up. 3 teams from the South Coast League ranked or given consideration (Tesoro and Dana Hills) does not seem to be justified. We will see on Wednesday when three teams from the South Coast League play against three teams from the Century League which League is stronger and should be given more consideration in the Division II CIF rankings.

]]> By: Robin Carden http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7187 Robin Carden Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:28:05 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7187 One further note;.......not to beep the horn to much, but Riverside Poly lost to Servite and Loyola......both teams JSerra beat...... One further note;.......not to beep the horn to much, but Riverside Poly lost to Servite and Loyola......both teams JSerra beat......

]]> By: fan http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7185 fan Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:09:02 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7185 These rankings are done by CIF and not OC Varsity's Dan Albano. These rankings are copied from the cifss.org site and reposted here at OC Varsity. The coaches are polled by CIF and this is how the standings come be. These rankings are done by CIF and not OC Varsity's Dan Albano.
These rankings are copied from the cifss.org site and reposted here at OC Varsity. The coaches are polled by CIF and this is how the standings come be.

]]> By: El Mo dad http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7178 El Mo dad Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:52:07 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7178 With Mission Viejo’s loss to what will most likely be the Century Leagues fifth place team, Brea Olinda, and their loss to a good, but unranked, Dana Hills, I thought it would be easy to make a case for El Modena (second place in the century League) to move up in the standings. Then I logged on to OC Varsity to find that Mission Viejo had chocked up a victory over 6th racked Wilson Long Beach. This leaves me with two possible conclusions: Mission Viejo is a talented, yet inconsistent team or Long Beach Wilson has been over ranked this season? Mission Viejo has a big opportunity to answer this question in there last regular season game against Laguna Beach; with a victory supporting my first conclusion and a loss supporting the latter. I wish El Mo had the chance to play that game. It’s hard to draw clear conclusions about Long Beach Wilson and Santiago with OC Varsity’s limited coverage of there schedules. LBW has certainly been beaten-up in their 5 meetings with quality OC teams, but beyond that, there’s little to give me a feeling for the quality of this team. Santiago has beaten a strong Canyon team and Mission Viejo, but lost twice to the South Coast’s fourth place team Capo Valley?? Unfortunately, even if El Mo has decisive victories in their last two regular season games, against Brea and Tesoro, it won’t gain them much more respect in the standings. At this point all El Mo can do is hope for a more positive consideration in this weeks rankings and a first round playoff draw against LBW, Sanitgo, or Mission Viejo to give the boys a chance prove themselves. With Mission Viejo’s loss to what will most likely be the Century Leagues fifth place team, Brea Olinda, and their loss to a good, but unranked, Dana Hills, I thought it would be easy to make a case for El Modena (second place in the century League) to move up in the standings. Then I logged on to OC Varsity to find that Mission Viejo had chocked up a victory over 6th racked Wilson Long Beach. This leaves me with two possible conclusions: Mission Viejo is a talented, yet inconsistent team or Long Beach Wilson has been over ranked this season? Mission Viejo has a big opportunity to answer this question in there last regular season game against Laguna Beach; with a victory supporting my first conclusion and a loss supporting the latter. I wish El Mo had the chance to play that game.

It’s hard to draw clear conclusions about Long Beach Wilson and Santiago with OC Varsity’s limited coverage of there schedules. LBW has certainly been beaten-up in their 5 meetings with quality OC teams, but beyond that, there’s little to give me a feeling for the quality of this team. Santiago has beaten a strong Canyon team and Mission Viejo, but lost twice to the South Coast’s fourth place team Capo Valley??

Unfortunately, even if El Mo has decisive victories in their last two regular season games, against Brea and Tesoro, it won’t gain them much more respect in the standings. At this point all El Mo can do is hope for a more positive consideration in this weeks rankings and a first round playoff draw against LBW, Sanitgo, or Mission Viejo to give the boys a chance prove themselves.

]]> By: Robin Carden http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/27/new-cif-ss-boys-water-polo-rankings-oct-27/10173/#comment-7177 Robin Carden Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:39:28 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=10173#comment-7177 Div. 2 ranking should be reviewed and updated. JSerra beat Servite and La Canada. Also beat Loyola and Clovis..........They should be # or #4 ............Just my opinion. OCVarsity site is great........ Robin Div. 2 ranking should be reviewed and updated. JSerra beat Servite and La Canada. Also beat Loyola and Clovis..........They should be # or #4 ............Just my opinion.

OCVarsity site is great........

Robin

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