Comments on: Fryer's teams 16-20 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/ High school sports talk by the staff of the Orange County Register Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:39:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Matt Barkley http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6390 Matt Barkley Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:05:35 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6390 Fountain Valley deserves to be in the top 10. They are probably the hardest working team in this nation. They just have bad luck when it comes to injuries. They just beat Newport Harbor... if you say they shouldn't be in the top 10... your on crack. --Matt Barkley-- Fountain Valley deserves to be in the top 10.
They are probably the hardest working team in this nation. They just have bad luck when it comes to injuries. They just beat Newport Harbor... if you say they shouldn't be in the top 10... your on crack.
--Matt Barkley--

]]> By: PTOWNS FINEST http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6271 PTOWNS FINEST Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:44:29 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6271 Mike Marrujo is the best coach in the county and has been for a long time. Valencia will be in CIF for the 20th consecutive year and beware to whoever has to face them the first round of CIF. GO TIGERS!!!! Mike Marrujo is the best coach in the county and has been for a long time. Valencia will be in CIF for the 20th consecutive year and beware to whoever has to face them the first round of CIF.
GO TIGERS!!!!

]]> By: IndianChief http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6213 IndianChief Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:41:06 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6213 As far as the southwest division goes, I'll even go so far to say that I think La Habra should be the the #1 team right now based on who they played in the pre-season. Everybody knows about Los Al and San Clemente, but they also beat South Hills, the #1 team in the Southeast. There are some very good teams in our division, I look forward to CIF where we can show people once and for all that the Indians are a very good team. People can say all they like about Michael Allain and being a one-trick pony team. But NOBODY has stopped him yet, so why not ride him? Football people know that defense wins championships, and Allain doesn't play defense...The Indians defense is a very quick, very physical bunch, just ask any of the limping, hobbling opposing offensive lineman and running backs that leave the field each night heading for the ice bags. For those that think that Canyon game is indicative of this Fullerton team? No way. Fullerton faithful is right. Believe me, our boys would love to play Canyon right now and settle it! Much the same way as I believe Valencia is not the same team that lost to Western. Sit back and enjoy the ride folks, it's gonna get interesting... Go Tribe! As far as the southwest division goes, I'll even go so far to say that I think La Habra should be the the #1 team right now based on who they played in the pre-season. Everybody knows about Los Al and San Clemente, but they also beat South Hills, the #1 team in the Southeast.

There are some very good teams in our division, I look forward to CIF where we can show people once and for all that the Indians are a very good team. People can say all they like about Michael Allain and being a one-trick pony team. But NOBODY has stopped him yet, so why not ride him? Football people know that defense wins championships, and Allain doesn't play defense...The Indians defense is a very quick, very physical bunch, just ask any of the limping, hobbling opposing offensive lineman and running backs that leave the field each night heading for the ice bags.

For those that think that Canyon game is indicative of this Fullerton team? No way. Fullerton faithful is right. Believe me, our boys would love to play Canyon right now and settle it! Much the same way as I believe Valencia is not the same team that lost to Western. Sit back and enjoy the ride folks, it's gonna get interesting...

Go Tribe!

]]> By: fullerton faithful http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6183 fullerton faithful Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:01:13 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6183 Thanks to all for your thoughtful responses. Especially you, Steve (after that pretty tough evaluation). With all due respect , we did beat El Dorado when they were rated above us (and exposed their weaknesses for other teams) and snapped a rather long winning streak. We did the same to Western who was rated ahead of us going into that game. Why would Tustin jump ahead of us for showing no mercy on a team we too, could have run up the score on, if we hadn't backed off. As far as Mr. Allain goes, what good team out there doesn't rely on great players? Our offensive line has done a wonderful job and our defense has been very tough on running backs and quarterbacks. Nobody here believes we can beat up the big boys, but they will never give us a shot if you don't , Mr Fryer. Come on, 2-4 SM, 3-3 Tustin or Dana Hills.We can only beat who they put in front of us and had you seen the tapes or listened to an unbiased Max Preps announcer we really took a unjust beating from the (one) officials in the Canyon game and really should have won. Thanks to all for your thoughtful responses. Especially you, Steve
(after that pretty tough evaluation). With all due respect , we did beat El Dorado when they were rated above us (and exposed their weaknesses for other teams) and snapped a rather long winning streak. We did the same to Western who was rated ahead of us going into that game. Why would Tustin jump ahead of us for showing no mercy on a team we too, could have run up the score on, if we hadn't backed off.

As far as Mr. Allain goes, what good team out there doesn't rely on great players? Our offensive line has done a wonderful job and our defense has been very tough on running backs and quarterbacks. Nobody here believes we can beat up the big boys, but they will never give us a shot if you don't , Mr Fryer.

Come on, 2-4 SM, 3-3 Tustin or Dana Hills.We can only beat who they put in front of us and had you seen the tapes or listened to an unbiased Max Preps announcer we really took a unjust beating from the (one) officials in the Canyon game and really should have won.

]]> By: HIGHSCHOOLFB http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6160 HIGHSCHOOLFB Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:34 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6160 Great point Need 2 Know, I appluade you for that. And I think Fullerton is a very good team but if not for Mr. Allain, Fullerton would probably be 1-5. La Habra has no problem trying to score 100 points a game. And they do that knowing that Fryer and Co. are all over them... Great point Need 2 Know, I appluade you for that. And I think Fullerton is a very good team but if not for Mr. Allain, Fullerton would probably be 1-5. La Habra has no problem trying to score 100 points a game. And they do that knowing that Fryer and Co. are all over them...

]]> By: Need 2 Know http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6158 Need 2 Know Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:54:18 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6158 When is running up the score OK? I would really like to know when it is (if ever) appropriate. Tustin beats up Brea Olinda and all of a sudden they are bumped up in the polls. Is it that important to crush a team for status? Will La Habra move up in the next couple of weeks? You can bet they will be running up the score. They have no shame in humiliating their opponents for that "big win"! Including the fans, parents and ANNOUNCERS. Teams like Buena Park, that have players that play both ways for JV and Varsity, who play with their hearts and very tired/sore bodies, deserve many kudos for their efforts! Best quote from a HS football coach, "Who knew that 91 was a multiple of 7." When is running up the score OK? I would really like to know when it is (if ever) appropriate.

Tustin beats up Brea Olinda and all of a sudden they are bumped up in the polls. Is it that important to crush a team for status? Will La Habra move up in the next couple of weeks? You can bet they will be running up the score. They have no shame in humiliating their opponents for that "big win"! Including the fans, parents and ANNOUNCERS.

Teams like Buena Park, that have players that play both ways for JV and Varsity, who play with their hearts and very tired/sore bodies, deserve many kudos for their efforts!

Best quote from a HS football coach, "Who knew that 91 was a multiple of 7."

]]> By: hiramv http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6139 hiramv Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:47:30 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6139 Which teams ranked above Fullerton should not be ranked above Fullerton? yea,but...... the indians lost bad to canyon (3-3 #21) 42-21 AT HOME! even though laguna hills (6-0 #12), did smack'em a bit 26-7, defeats to western (4-2 #19) and foothill (5-1 #14) were close. you have dana hills (3-3 #13) higher than foothill and western higher than valencia (5-1 #20) due to wins in head to head games. tough i know. please do us a favor and get fountain valley out from at least the top 20 and santa margarita off your poll completely. sorry, but they are not as good as years past. Which teams ranked above Fullerton should not be ranked above Fullerton? yea,but...... the indians lost bad to canyon (3-3 #21) 42-21 AT HOME! even though laguna hills (6-0 #12), did smack'em a bit 26-7, defeats to western (4-2 #19) and foothill (5-1 #14) were close. you have dana hills (3-3 #13) higher than foothill and western higher than valencia (5-1 #20) due to wins in head to head games. tough i know. please do us a favor and get fountain valley out from at least the top 20 and santa margarita off your poll completely. sorry, but they are not as good as years past.

]]> By: STEVE FRYER, ocvarsity.com http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6131 STEVE FRYER, ocvarsity.com Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:27:42 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6131 The team that leapfrogged and moved up a lot was Tustin, which is not a Catholic school team. Which teams ranked above Fullerton should not be ranked above Fullerton? Fullerton has not beaten a team ranked above Fullerton. A lot of county Pac-5 teams like Esperanza, Mission Viejo and San Clemente would rather play a county team like Fullerton than have to travel out of Orange County to find nonleague opponents. I have written excellent things about Fullerton and La Habra, in game stories, rankings, etc. I like both of those teams. I vote in the Southwest Division poll. I had La Habra at No. 1 and Fullerton at No. 2. The team that leapfrogged and moved up a lot was Tustin, which is not a Catholic school team.

Which teams ranked above Fullerton should not be ranked above Fullerton?

Fullerton has not beaten a team ranked above Fullerton.

A lot of county Pac-5 teams like Esperanza, Mission Viejo and San Clemente would rather play a county team like Fullerton than have to travel out of Orange County to find nonleague opponents.

I have written excellent things about Fullerton and La Habra, in game stories, rankings, etc. I like both of those teams.

I vote in the Southwest Division poll. I had La Habra at No. 1 and Fullerton at No. 2.

]]> By: hiramv http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6128 hiramv Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:08:25 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6128 i can just see the polls next week, and the week after that...... and at the end of the regular season poll---#16 santa margarita (3-7) and #17 fountain valley (5-5). well, if you want what the polls are suppose to be based on (what have you done for us lately) than be consistent and fair. by the way, garden grove can beat your 25 pick. believe that! i can just see the polls next week, and the week after that...... and at the end of the regular season poll---#16 santa margarita (3-7) and #17 fountain valley (5-5). well, if you want what the polls are suppose to be based on (what have you done for us lately) than be consistent and fair. by the way, garden grove can beat your 25 pick. believe that!

]]> By: IndianChief http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/20/fryers-teams-16-20-5/9294/#comment-6124 IndianChief Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:30:28 +0000 http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/?p=9294#comment-6124 Not to mention, the Indians are still #1 in the Southwest and Foothill and Tustin are ahead of them in the county polls but behind them in the southwest? How exactly does that work. I suppose an 86-0 win would have kept them in their spot, instead they "tried" to keep it respectful by having the JV team play the 2nd half. It'd just be nice for a little consistency in your pics... Not to mention, the Indians are still #1 in the Southwest and Foothill and Tustin are ahead of them in the county polls but behind them in the southwest? How exactly does that work. I suppose an 86-0 win would have kept them in their spot, instead they "tried" to keep it respectful by having the JV team play the 2nd half. It'd just be nice for a little consistency in your pics...

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