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Football Polls: CIF Southwest Polls

October 20th, 2008, 6:05 pm · 77 Comments · posted by TODD HARMONSON, OCREGISTER.COM

All of the talk is about Fullerton and La Habra, but what about Valencia? Foothill? Western? Canyon?

1. Fullerton 5-1

2. Valencia 5-1

3. Foothill 5-1

4. La Habra 4-2

5. Western 4-2

6. Canyon 3-3

7. Tustin 3-3

8. Loara 5-1

9. Anaheim 4-2

10. Sunny Hills 4-2

Others: Trabuco Hills 3-3; Cypress 3-3; El Dorado 1-5

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77 Comments

77 Comments

  • Legit40 says:

    Santa Ana Valley is going to defeat Anaheim this upcoming week.

  • Country says:

    Tustin should be above Western with Western above Canyon. Tustin beat Western who beat Canyon. Makes sense.

    Also, they need to look beyond the win-loss record of a team. Maybe then La Habra would be ranked #1.

  • ol' ball coach says:

    Who else has played pac 5 teams.other than La Habra? those 2 loses should be points for not against,when ranking them!

  • HIGHSCHOOLFB says:

    If La Habra shuts down Allain (I MEAN FULLERTON) on Nov. 7th than they will be #1, Ol’ ball coach is correct in saying those points should count for them. I have been critical of La Habra in the past playing weak teams but now I have been able to watch them this year and with the toughness they showed against Los Al and San Clemente they should be #2, if not #1 with Fullerton playing real hard. They shouldn’t be ranked on just win/loss, and La Habra has blown their competition out of the water besides the 2 top ten teams they played. But Fullerton’s only weapon is Allain the running back, I haven’t seen anyone else do anything on that team and La Habra’s rush defense is really good…

  • EldoHAWK#6 says:

    we suck at football we won’t go to playoffs. Boo eledorado I knew I should not have came

  • anaheim86 says:

    S.A vally will go down Vs. AnAhEiM!!! AHS is moving up in rank!!!

  • Yeahyeahyeah says:

    Valencia Lost to Western And so on and so on.It will all work it self out in the end
    1.La Habra
    2.Fullerton
    3.Foothill
    4.Western
    5.Valencia
    Then the rest fall in behind.
    Loara can be ranked ahead of Kennedy , Pacifica,or Cypress. Until they beat them.
    Eldo cant even be mentioned this year. Watch out for Tustin they are gonna make a run , too.

  • STEPPING UP! says:

    Valencia lost to Western with their front Denfensive Line sitting on the sidelines againts Western, Mr. Ortegega of Western could not have gotten a nicer gift. Valencia also has a lot of young talent that had only 1 Varsity game under their belt they now have 6 games under their belt they have mattured as true Varsity players . Valencia is not about one big name or stats Valencia uses “TEAM” work and a strong D that keeps matturing each game. Valencia last two loses where at Handel Stadium Western this year and were within an eyebrow of beating Cypress last year in the semi finals if they can Defeat Cypress this Thursday at Handel Stadium they will be a tuff “TEAM” to stop.

  • landa says:

    SA valley is going to beat anaheim. anaheim struggled against savanna and savanna is not a great team this year. Anaheim barely egded them out.

  • WESTERN 4 LIFE says:

    we got lucky when we played valencia

  • sayman says:

    LA HABRA WILL BEAT FULLERTON NO PROBLEM……………SO THERE

  • Freewway Lge fan! says:

    La Habra kinda reminds me of Fresno st. and their motto….ANYBODY, ANYTIME,ANYWHERE,they dont back down to anyone! thats going to be one hell of a game when they meet.

  • sayman says:

    fullerton remember 2007 cif nothing will change but a coin flip

  • just a dude says:

    Don’t forget for the second week that Fullerton and La Habra were in a different division last year.
    I’m not saying La Habra is a bad team because they are a very good team.
    I think Foothill and La Habra should be 1-2 because Foothill has beaten a division one school.
    La Habra hasn’t.
    Also Foothill beat Canyon, who beat Fullerton.
    La Habra’s losses shouldn’t count against them I agree.
    But they are losses none the less.

  • hiramv says:

    this a wild but pretty well balanced division. but cant see fullerton at #1 when they had lost to #6 canyon and #2 valencia lost to #5 western. does not make sense. hey kids….every week counts! that being said, foothill and la habra should be tied at #1 for now. the rest should look like this: #3 valencia, #4 fullerton, #5 western, #6 canyon and #7 tustin. makes better sense.

  • unknown says:

    when are people going to realize that anaheim, loara, and sunny hills are horrible teams. does no one know that Anaheim lost to Katella or is everyone looking past that? Loara has played some of the worst teams in the county and will probably lose their next 4 games, they maybe can beat kennedy but thats about it. And Sunny Hills? sunny hills? I really dont even need to say anything except sunny hills.

  • Western Meister says:

    SA Valley and Anaheim don’t stand a chance in this division. They both lost to a Garden Grove team! in consecutive weeks! Can’t get any worse. Legit40, u’ll beat anaheim cuz you managed to score on Santiogos d.

  • jamie says:

    Landa You My Boy!!!!! Let’s go Valley

  • football guy says:

    Villa Park should be in the rankings. They are 3-3 and 1-0 in League. And coming off a 1-9 season. Watch out for VP.

  • RumbleBee says:

    LOL yeah watch out!!! C’mon eldohawks#6….the Hawks are still pretty good. You’re just not invincible anymore. When Wilson can hit his recievers you guys are unstopable. Canyon has a fairly decent secondary, judging by the way they defended against Bonita, but Wilson picked them apart in the last few minutes of the Canyon-El Dorado game. I think that El Dorado can really make a run if the passing game gains some momentum. Unless lightning strikes two more times, El Dorado will make playoffs, then these ranking don’t mean a thing. El Dorado’s problem is that they are used to walking through league. Welcome to real life post Wilson-Laurenzi.

  • Comanche says:

    Canyons QB did a good job of “picking them apart” as well. Yes the defense let up a bit…but Canyons offense kept answering back to the Hawks scores.

  • Yeahyeahyeah says:

    Villa Park will not be ranked, because they wont be but a third place seed if they can win 2 of their next 4 . And then lose in the first round . Villa park has a good D but no O.And coaches that only care about wins and not about kids.
    1 TUSTIN
    2 CANYON
    3 COIN FLIP Eldo or VP
    Either way 1st round exit for either team

  • hAwKeR says:

    we are so used to being invincable all this is new to us. but we are a humble team and understand we can’t win it all. Valencia, Glendora, Canyon, Fullerton all could’ve been won easily and anyone who saw those games knows it. watch out for next years team though.

  • Comanche says:

    hAwKeR…I did see the Canyon game and you are right…..if you played the entire game like you played the last 3 minutes it may have turned out different. But a fottball game does consist of 4 quarters and the outcome is a refection of every minute of those 4 quarters. Canyon played a good strong 4 quarters of football and the outcome showed it. Good luck to the Hawks the rest of the season

  • El Do Fan says:

    Don’t let the door hit you on your way out, eldohawk#6!!

  • Freewway Lge fan! says:

    unknown,thats funny!…..sunny hills can and maybe squeeze into the playoff, with 2 more victories BP and SON! And troy hs is done they will not beat fullerton or la habra…both those schools will ring up 60+ points on that weak 4-4 defense…COACH Hastings get a clue . COLEMAN AND BEARD ARE NO LONGER THERE!

  • killerjr666 says:

    SA Valley is 3-3, and 1-0 in league play. Why arent we ranked?

  • loarapops says:

    Loara happens to be five and 1 and should be up there where the other five and 1 teams are in la habras spot because they suck this year and are 4 and 1

  • Indian says:

    okay so why’s everyone hating on fullerton?? first losing to canyon was first game jitters and last year fullerton shut down la habra. ronnie hillman only had 1 big carry and quezada didnt do anything!!

  • FUHSD FAN.......... says:

    WHO’S EVERYONE! AND I DONT SEE ANYONE HATING, BUT LA HABRA STILL WON! IT WAS LA HABRA STOPPING #21 19 CARRIES FOR 63 YARDS…..ITS GOING TO BE A BARN BURNER WHEN THEY MEET!

  • football paul says:

    I like it. Everybody talkin about La Habra and Fullerton. Keep it up while the Knights quietly take care of business. I know, we lost badly to Dana Hills. Chalk it up to first game jitters? We beat Santa Margarita after being down 26-14. We beat Canyon and we didn’t even play that well. We also beat Tustin. Foothill could easily wind up #1 if the boys will stay focused.

  • FUHSD FAN.......... says:

    coach case is a 1st class guy! i wouldnt mind seeing him walk off the field with the hardware(championship)

  • comanchepop says:

    footballpaul….you can say that you guys didn’t play well against canyon, but you played against the second string linebackers in the second half of the game. Our middle went out with a broken thumb, and outside had a rolled ankle. We didn’t play all that great either, look at the turnovers. I’ve seen film of you guys against Tustin, and I don’t recall seeing 32 on the field. So don’t talk yourself up and jinx your team. I would agree with FUHSD FAN in that Case is a class act. He could’ve punched the ball in again at the end of the game, but he took a knee and gave the ball back. That is classy, and I tip my hat.

  • sayman says:

    fullerton needed a coin flip to be seeded becuase they cryed to cif about troy having a player that wasnt supose to been playing and then painted there own lockers and blamed it on troy ps la habra will never forget that

  • WakeUp says:

    sayman looks like he’s just a little bit too knowledgable about the very old, last year’s news, time to get over it, incident! (Obviously not a Troy grad/student with those writing skills, or NOT!)

    Life goes on. Catch up to the rest of the Fullerton residents who have moved on. Its the SMALL MINDED, BITTER, HAVE NO LIFERS, that will consistently bring up the past forever (especially at every class reunion) to annoy us.

    BTW, FUHSD Fan, you don’t see any hating goin on?? And I think the Indian defense held Ronnie “the OC Reggie Bush” to a minimum too.
    Is GuadaLaHabra in the OC? HOw many Scotsmen are rolling in their graves while their beloved flag is marched around La Habra. How PC is that?

    Wait til the game to judge.

  • FWYFAN says:

    What’s all the fuss about Fullerton. If Allain gets hurt they are done!
    Fullerton is still hated in the league for what they did last year to eliminate Troy and win league because of a coin flip. I haven’t seen any of their players wear that patch. They are smarter than I thought. Their AD and coach still uses a golf cart to get around. I’m surprised he hasn’t dropped of a heart attack. What a poor excuse for a varsity football coach..Go La Habra!

  • Geronimo says:

    as far as i can see, mr sayman seems to be missing the point that La Habra is a stuck up, overrated school with a great football program but absolutely no class what so ever….fullerton is a school with 100 years of pride and tradition while GuadaLa Habra is just now starting to get more looks than they ever have before. dont get me wrong, LH has one hell of a football program, but besides that I see no pride in any of them!!! FUHS and LH will be a game for the ages and no matter the outcome, lets all just take a second to pray that the parents and fans (the ones with the least amount of class out of the bunch) dont lose their minds AGAIN and start throwing beer and tequila bottles at Fullerton after the game…should be a great game though!

    p.s.
    tell the LH head coach to stay on the freaken sideline where the coaches belong! he doesnt need to walk out to midfield to argue with a ref about Hillman’s excessive celebration and loud mouth unsportsman-like conduct penalties! somebody tell him that the ref will walk over to him ON THE SIDELINE if he feels the need to wine about something.

  • Line 6 says:

    killerjr666 - you lost to a GGL team, remember week 4? come on, how can you even ask to be ranked after losing to Santiago? Where’s Pacifica? No ‘Ship’ to tank at this year?

  • Geronimo says:

    hey FWYFAN maybe u should look a little freaken closer!!! they wear their LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP patches PROUDLY!!!!!!!! and you’re right, they are smarter because they go to Fullerton and not La Habra or Troy! the main reason any football player from LH ever graduated in the first place is because they had their Troy Highlander fans helping them study for their S,A.T’s…its time to get over the fact that that crap happened!!! oh and i’m pretty sure that their AD just about played pro ball so the only sorry thing i’m noticing is your mind process over that subject. time to GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ahs football alumni says:

    Too many of you dudes are going with these rankings

    Neither La Habra or Fullerton will win CIF this year

    It will be up for grabs

    An unexpected team will take it for underestimating those teams

    Leave all the talk in your mouth and play on the field

  • dc says:

    well to be honest with you all, according to the test scores it goes troy, LA HABRA sunny hills fullerton sonora buena park, so i mean if you want to talk about stupidity theres the facts my friends, and maybe la habra fans get out of hand at times, i know i do, but there are never any fights, just a lot of trash talking, because were very passionate fans. so call it what you want to call it, but i see it as a love for the game.

  • fullerton student says:

    all you LH fans wine a lot about a stupid little ranking just wait for nov. 7

  • just looking in! says:

    MAN, I LOVE READING THIS STUFF! IT CRACKS ME UP!

  • WakeUp says:

    As the OLD story goes, (and it will live forever in the small-minded!), the Troy COACHES and AD made the mistake . They are at fault. NO students are to blame. Done deal. And if Fullerton only relied upon the “coin-flip”, how did they win all the games to get to CIF? Duh?
    And they have continued to play with determination and heart this year.

    This is getting quite old.

    As far as Mr. Allain goes, what good team out there doesn’t rely on great players? They have awesome RB’s that are ready to step up at any time. What does La Habra have besides Hillman and Quezada? Every team focuses on its strengths and top senior players. And don’t dismiss the passing game. The Indians are ready and can adapt. Surprises are in store for all.

    It will be interesting to see the outcome of the LH v. Troy game tomorrow night. Will the Highlanders take the high road and go easy on their “sideline buddies” from Troy? How much love will be on that field at the end of the 4th?

    Good Luck to all Friday Night fighters!!

  • unknown says:

    from SA VALLEY:so what if we lost to santiago.. its league now.. we have really come togetther as a team and were doing much better now.. you can ask anaslime after tomorrow night… we are gonna make the ranks and western knows were gonna fight for the leauge title.. were coming!!!

  • football fan says:

    I am absolutely stunned by these rankings. This is not right by just baseing the standings off a “win loos record”, La Habra put up a great fight against Los Al and San Clemente,and they totally proved themselves as a dominant football force in the county.They have also demolished their other opponents, and which should play into this standings picture.Their defense is a huge strong point for this team, and they should easily be able to conquer the Michael Allain Indians. If I were the Fullerton coaches, I would be thankful that its fire season again.

  • STICKEM says:

    With the exception of Western (a 24-7 loss) none of Valencia’s opponents this season currently have winning records (a combined 10-20). Cypress seems to have had their number in recent years and should be a good test for them.

  • Injun Joe says:

    Well then, GOD BLESS Michael Allain and all his Indian TEAMMATES.
    Is there an I in T E A M? He would be the first one to tell you all that his offensive line is what allows him to do his thing! And I think having a solid defensive line kinda helps too. Its all about the TEAM — all the boys that collectively play to WIN, TOGETHER!

    GO INDIANS!

  • sayman says:

    hey you fullerton idoits how many cif champoinships do you have ps NONE……………

  • i did battle in the frw lge! says:

    1984, that i know of and i think they have some in the real early years!
    played against the ‘84 team small in #’s but man what a bunch of dudes!

  • i did battle in the frw lge! says:

    1918 , 1927 and 1984……………..3 titles and 1 state title app.’27 but lost to bakersfield!
    sayman, i know you love your clan but do some research 1st b4 you speak! go freeway lge!

  • Legit40 says:

    Correction to the SA Valley record….Overall (4-2) League (1-0)

  • Injun Joe says:

    Who’s the ‘ idoits ‘ ?

    Thank you ‘battle in the fwy lge”. Add a couple of runner- ups and 100 years of football history, baby!! And over 500 football game wins!!

    Sunny Hills has 3 CIF Championships too!!

    Its not all about you. Sorry

  • Fullerton, ok talk trash all you want LH beat you last year and this year will be the same result.You talk about Hillman and QUEZADA great players.LH has a good defense also.They will contain Allain like last year.So don’t talk smack just be at the game in our house.Fullerton’s good but LH is just that much better.

  • dee ray says:

    fullerton couldnt hold la habras jockstrap

  • i did battle in the frw lge! says:

    ok ,it seems that sayman is a student at la habra hs. what i need is a full hs student. and what we bet is loser must wear the winners colors on the monday at school and then have pics posted on oc varsity….what do u guys think…any takers?

  • FUHS student and dedicated fan says:

    hey next time look in the gym at fullerton ull c all of the banners of OUR sucess. and all of you haters just strap up the pads and well see how it goes. o and all of this is mindless ******** you all need to get a life and just wait for NOV. 7

  • la habra all day says:

    wow all the banners at fullerton hs are from the early 1900s lol

  • VP53 says:

    why isnt villa park up there? we have a wayy better record than eldo and yet these people say that they have a better chance?? NO WAY! vp coming back this year to own

  • Fullerton Faithful says:

    You QuadaLaHabra fans are so pathetic. No wonder you get no respect. The head of CIF came up to us last year ( CIF game ) and told us (Fullerton fans ) LaHabra fans were the worst fans he had witnessed being around in his 35 years of high school, nice! Hey LaHabra all day, next time you come to our gym look for Hillmans azz on the ground were a sophmore kicked it after getto man came over and started mouthing off and flashing gang signs.Yeah you bring nothing but class to that armpit. By the way we were 30+ point underdogs in last years game and lost by 10 in a game that wasn’t decided till the final moments, and our sophmore QB out played your supposed senior stud ( who was the only class act on your team ). Good luck to you LH Warriors or is that Troy Highlanders… WHATEVER does anybody even care about you…………..NOT!!!.

  • Seaodg says:

    After tonights game where is Valencia at now in the polls?

  • youll find out says:

    to anaslimes #86 you better be on the kick off return tommorow. ima hit you…

  • KillerTiller says:

    Maybe next year VP53. Your coach has done a good job of inspiring you to think positively, but it’s not going to happen. You guys are improving every week, but that’s not going to be enough. I hope it’s not your senior year because it would be a shame to shatter all of that hopefullness I hear in your comments.

  • I’m curios to know why Western is ahead of Tustin and Loara ahead of Anaheim. Records don’t always tell the whole story.

  • Legit40 says:

    I am going to watch that hit on #86!!!!!!!
    Or i will just look over at the bench a couple times…..hahahahah
    Go Falcons!!!!!!!!

  • fullertonfan says:

    so much trash talking haha
    everyone just chill out and wait until the LH vs Fullerton Game.
    Then the winner will get bragging rights, but until then chill out and respect two great teams

  • dee ray says:

    so what fullerton you won in the in the year 1800 when there were four teams

  • Chata says:

    Is it fair to say Anaheim is overrated?? Can say that about Valley - since they aren’t even ranked! lol

  • dee ray says:

    GO LA HABRA BY 40

  • la habra all day says:

    fiullerton faithful i actually was their when that incident happened and you got it all wrong. la habra fans are the best!!

  • dee ray says:

    thats right LA HABRA ALL THE WAY HEY

  • chris jenson says:

    Cypress beat Val. so they should jump up in the polls.

  • dee ray says:

    geronamo go flap your gums at your mother at taco bell where she works

  • Legit40 says:

    The Falcons defeated the overrated “colonist”!!!! Did u watch the game Chata??
    Now they should be in the rankings for sure

  • Chata says:

    Really Legit? LOL. That’s why I’m saying Anaheim is overrated! They lost to Valley! an unranked team that lost to a GGL team! Beat Western, than you’ll jump up on the poll.

  • unknown says:

    sunny hills is playing without a lot of potentially good senior players that didn’t play this year…WITH new team chemistry due to a new coach.

  • fullerton baseball player says:

    well find out who is the better team and who has the better fans Friday

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