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	<title>Comments on: Two Mission Viejo football players under investigation</title>
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		<title>By: Don Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was actually Maui.  I was on the same United Airlines flight as the football team.  They were very well behaved in the airport and on the flight home.  They also crushed the team from Maui in their game.  I agree that it is a little ridiculous to fly all the way there for a game, but all Hawaii teams are a little restricted in their competition, since they are not on the mainland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was actually Maui.  I was on the same United Airlines flight as the football team.  They were very well behaved in the airport and on the flight home.  They also crushed the team from Maui in their game.  I agree that it is a little ridiculous to fly all the way there for a game, but all Hawaii teams are a little restricted in their competition, since they are not on the mainland.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy JoBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy JoBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UR right jimmy1 just like the AP thing at Trabuco 7 morons ruined it for the other 195. Some of those innocent ones paid dearly in scholarship losses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UR right jimmy1 just like the AP thing at Trabuco 7 morons ruined it for the other 195. Some of those innocent ones paid dearly in scholarship losses.</p>
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		<title>By: dback</title>
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		<dc:creator>dback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Painted balls win championships!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Painted balls win championships!</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy1</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I tell my kids is what we are dealing with here.  I call it the 3% rule.  3% of any group ruin things for the other 97%.  Apply this to anything. An overwhelming majority of people do thing right.  But it&#039;s the few who screw things up - always.  They are the ones that get all the press as well.  That percentage could even be a little high.  If we and the press focus on the majority who do the right thing, we wouldn&#039;t be having this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I tell my kids is what we are dealing with here.  I call it the 3% rule.  3% of any group ruin things for the other 97%.  Apply this to anything. An overwhelming majority of people do thing right.  But it&#8217;s the few who screw things up &#8211; always.  They are the ones that get all the press as well.  That percentage could even be a little high.  If we and the press focus on the majority who do the right thing, we wouldn&#8217;t be having this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: xxaapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>xxaapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: Add what to the rap sheet? Did the players get sent home for breaking curfew? Having a stripper in their room? The article seemed a bit vague, but dealing with minors, it&#039;s going to be vague. And my point in the other thread was to have CIF-SS change the rules. If you think that multiple &quot;minor&quot; (as described by dalbano, which I agree) violations should be punished harsher, whining ain&#039;t going to do it. Most HS Football coaches won&#039;t sign on to it because it might affect them.

Glow: Because that is the way it is, does that make it right? No. To solve this we need to discover what the issue is/was, and take actions to stop it from happening again. Your way of thinking is like people in cars break laws, get in accidents, and kill people every day. So let&#039;s get rid of cars! But you would be against that because that would effect you personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: Add what to the rap sheet? Did the players get sent home for breaking curfew? Having a stripper in their room? The article seemed a bit vague, but dealing with minors, it&#8217;s going to be vague. And my point in the other thread was to have CIF-SS change the rules. If you think that multiple &#8220;minor&#8221; (as described by dalbano, which I agree) violations should be punished harsher, whining ain&#8217;t going to do it. Most HS Football coaches won&#8217;t sign on to it because it might affect them.</p>
<p>Glow: Because that is the way it is, does that make it right? No. To solve this we need to discover what the issue is/was, and take actions to stop it from happening again. Your way of thinking is like people in cars break laws, get in accidents, and kill people every day. So let&#8217;s get rid of cars! But you would be against that because that would effect you personally.</p>
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		<title>By: glow22</title>
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		<dc:creator>glow22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually that&#039;s the way that real life works a lot of the time.  A few people get greedy with mortgages and houses and now most people will have a hard time getting one.  Park equipment gets vandalized over and over and out goes the equipment, not there for everyone anymore.  High school students get obnoxious in how they park in surrounding neighborhoods and, oop, up go parking-by-permit-only signs.  There are tons of incidents in which a few mess it up for the many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually that&#8217;s the way that real life works a lot of the time.  A few people get greedy with mortgages and houses and now most people will have a hard time getting one.  Park equipment gets vandalized over and over and out goes the equipment, not there for everyone anymore.  High school students get obnoxious in how they park in surrounding neighborhoods and, oop, up go parking-by-permit-only signs.  There are tons of incidents in which a few mess it up for the many.</p>
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		<title>By: JefferyScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>JefferyScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let&#039;s get rid of the 8th grade Washington DC trip, too.  Maybe those kids aren&#039;t mature enough, either. Of course they are not.  That&#039;s why chaparones/teachers/administration/parents are on board, also.  And, noone&#039;s convicted of anything.  Right?  These kids earn a trip via fundraising or old fashion parents hard work.  Either way, it&#039;s not at school district exspense.  Relax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let&#8217;s get rid of the 8th grade Washington DC trip, too.  Maybe those kids aren&#8217;t mature enough, either. Of course they are not.  That&#8217;s why chaparones/teachers/administration/parents are on board, also.  And, noone&#8217;s convicted of anything.  Right?  These kids earn a trip via fundraising or old fashion parents hard work.  Either way, it&#8217;s not at school district exspense.  Relax.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Burt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the time some of my HS football teammates  tore up several rooms at the Planters Hotel in Brawley after a CIF-SS playoff game.  The high school received the bill for damages and ALL of us had to work the orange groves and the packing house till we made enough to cover the bill.  Our HC was a WWII hero who believed if one squad member screwed up, we all paid the price.  Not a bad way to teach peers to hold each other accountable.

This incident should be added to Dan Albano&#039;s MV rap sheet.  Yes,  xxaapp, we are keeping score.  Would you have it any other way.  Dan, please be sure to report back if and when Coach Johnson returns your calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the time some of my HS football teammates  tore up several rooms at the Planters Hotel in Brawley after a CIF-SS playoff game.  The high school received the bill for damages and ALL of us had to work the orange groves and the packing house till we made enough to cover the bill.  Our HC was a WWII hero who believed if one squad member screwed up, we all paid the price.  Not a bad way to teach peers to hold each other accountable.</p>
<p>This incident should be added to Dan Albano&#8217;s MV rap sheet.  Yes,  xxaapp, we are keeping score.  Would you have it any other way.  Dan, please be sure to report back if and when Coach Johnson returns your calls.</p>
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		<title>By: xxaapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>xxaapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glow: Should we let them out before they are 30? A couple kids mess up so they all get punished? That is REALLY small minded.

SSjedi: This is the sports section, I don&#039;t wana read about fraud and all that here, although I would like more stories about the teams and not just who the coaches are drooling over.

Home: Our D3 teams should be playing Hawaii teams, LB Poly has the right idea, travel to play a team that is a challenge.

Ryan: Capo went last year too and the cost is about the same.

As for Corwin and Johnb, there is a light switch in that dark damp room you are in, you really need to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glow: Should we let them out before they are 30? A couple kids mess up so they all get punished? That is REALLY small minded.</p>
<p>SSjedi: This is the sports section, I don&#8217;t wana read about fraud and all that here, although I would like more stories about the teams and not just who the coaches are drooling over.</p>
<p>Home: Our D3 teams should be playing Hawaii teams, LB Poly has the right idea, travel to play a team that is a challenge.</p>
<p>Ryan: Capo went last year too and the cost is about the same.</p>
<p>As for Corwin and Johnb, there is a light switch in that dark damp room you are in, you really need to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: glow22</title>
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		<dc:creator>glow22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of who pays for it, the kids are obviously not mature enough to handle it, and future trips should be given serious thought before they are planned, if at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of who pays for it, the kids are obviously not mature enough to handle it, and future trips should be given serious thought before they are planned, if at all.</p>
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